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Old 09-24-2008, 09:37 AM
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Considering having auto pilot installed over the winter and wanted to get some suggestions. I have a Raymarine c120 system in the boat. I looked at these Raymarine Smart Pilot systems online anyone have experience with them. Or should I go with something stand alone?

Boat is a Hydra Sports 2500VX with Twin Yam 150 4 strokes
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:43 AM
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Simrad AP16, or AP26 if you can afford the difference, or look at the new Garmin, (former TR-1 with a display/control head), which should hit the streets any day now. Easy install, no rudder feedback needed, built-in trolling patterns, and will even follow a depth contour. Awesome.
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:51 AM
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toolbox, do a search here on the Raymarine S1000. It is a low cost, no frills AP unit that is simple to install and easy to operate. It is plug and play with your display.
I installed one on my Pursuit 2870 (Raymarine does not recommend them for boats over 26') and it has performed perfectly. It does not have all the bells and whistles of the TR-1 or other high-end AP units but for my use (trolling, straight line running to and from fishing grounds) it fit the bill.

Installed in about 3-4 hours by myself.
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:03 AM
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Just looked at the video on Raymarine website looks pretty easy. Might go with the pretty inexpensive looks like I can get that system for @ 1000.00 Now will that plug right into my C120
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tool box - 9/24/2008 1:03 PM

Just looked at the video on Raymarine website looks pretty easy. Might go with the pretty inexpensive looks like I can get that system for @ 1000.00 Now will that plug right into my C120
Yes, I run it off my C-80 and it works fine. I think Raymarine is having a rebate sale going on right now. Check out their site.

Installation was pretty simple. Where it got a bit "confusing" was hooking up to the GPS antenna. They don't really explain it clearly and assume a bit too much. With a few questions posted here I was able to get through it and the unit worked great from the get go!
The kit comes with special connectors that allow you to tap into the wires coming from the GPS antenna/receiver. You can also opt to purchase a junction box to perform the same step. The porvided connectors worked great for my application.
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Thanks I may ask you some more questions if I go this route
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:11 AM
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I'd recommend a Raymarine AP because there are features inherent in the C and E series displays that will take advantage of a RM AP.

For example, if you designate a waypoint to go to, or want to goto the curser, you can then have the AP engage and track to that waypoint. It simplifies the process considerably. That feature's been out with the C series software for quite a while, and was released with the v4.29 for the E late last spring.

The new SPX series pilots should be out soon, and combining them with the ST70 autopilot control heads will give you a pretty powerful system. Check out the RM site for more info.

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Old 09-24-2008, 11:13 AM
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For example, if you designate a waypoint to go to, or want to goto the curser, you can then have the AP engage and track to that waypoint. It simplifies the process considerably. That feature's been out with the C series software for quite a while, and was released with the v4.29 for the E late last spring.

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Please explain hiow this is any different if you combine any other AP with a RM unit....you mean you can engage from the chartplotter?
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Glen E - 9/24/2008 2:13 PM
marinerjoe - 9/24/2008 2:11 PM For example, if you designate a waypoint to go to, or want to goto the curser, you can then have the AP engage and track to that waypoint. It simplifies the process considerably. That feature's been out with the C series software for quite a while, and was released with the v4.29 for the E late last spring. Joe
Please explain hiow this is any different if you combine any other AP with a RM unit....you mean you can engage from the chartplotter?
Glen - that's exactly correct. You can engage the AP from the chartplotter. Way cool IMHO.

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Old 09-24-2008, 11:30 AM
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Thanks guys I think I am going to go with the RM system. The S1000 seems like it will go the trick for my needs I really only need point a to b and the couple different trolling patterns. Definitely cool on the interface with the Chartplotter.
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Tool Box,

PLEASE confirm with RM the ability for your C to engage the S1000. My first hand experience has been with a C and an E to an S1 and an S2 based systems. I'd hate for yours to not work as we say.

Get it from the horse's mouth by calling their tech support number and asking them about the S1000 directly.

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Old 09-24-2008, 11:42 AM
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Tool Box,

Get it from the horse's mouth by calling their tech support number and asking them about the S1000 directly.

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and you might want to tell them you are going to use an s1000 on twins on a 25 foot boat - the reason as I understand it that they limit the size of boat is the pump size on the s1000 - it's not meant to run 150 twins, IMO....
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I am not aware of any feature that allows me to engage the AP from my C-80. I don't think it is a feature of the S1000. If it is please let me know how to do this.
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:34 PM
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When you add the 4.29 software, (latest update 3 months ago) go into system setup and turn on the Autopilot control option. Then, via Seatalk, your C or E series chart plotter will send the commands to auto track or follow a heading. It actually gives you the option whenever you either move the curser to a place or choose a waypoint--to "start Autopilot". The newest icon in the upper right corner says "Pilot". That icon will say "Stby" or "Auto". It IS the coolest thing! When you pull up the split screen for chart plotter/multiple screen boxes, you may choose the "Waypoint" option. When you do, it tells you the TTG, XTE, whatever you want---all the while you are heading towards your target destination. At any time you can choose the "Autopilot Menu" and put your system into standby. I rarely use the remote control now.

Also, as far as the deviating course due to crab pots or debris goes, I can grab my wheel and move away from the danger. The AP may not like it, but eventually it does put itself BACK on track. I mean heck, if your paying attention, you shouldn't have to make some scarey wide turn or anything. Heck, make sure you pay attention.
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Thanks for the update I will perform the upgrade this weekend. THT rules
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:41 AM
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After speaking to RM the s1000 my not be powerful enough the twins, depending on how my steering is config. If it's in a series I will be fine if it's in a parallel config I will something more.
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:07 AM
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I installed a s1000 on my brother in laws. 290 wellcraft with twin 250s it works flawlessly. You can control with the c80. When you press go to waypoint a menu comes up on the screen. It asks you, If you want to go to waypoint hit engage or continue on heading hit auto. The soft keys appear on the bottom of the screen. Never have to use the remotoe if you dont want to.
I think it has to be hooked up to seatalk for this to function. It really is cool to move the cursor on the chartplotter and hit goto cursor and auto pilot takes you right there.
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:31 AM
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My concern with this system is that I have 2 rams and that the displacement of the rams combined would be too much for this pump.
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I doubt it will work then.
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I run an AP 26 and love the unit!
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