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Old 09-21-2008, 05:22 PM
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Default Raymarine or Garmin

Wish I could do a poll.
Give me your quick vote. I've had Ray for a while with some issues, I'm sure Garmin has some issues too. So I am going to update during this off-season with either the newest Ray or Garmin. FYI, I am talking mid range electronics Ray C70,80, 120-C or Garmin 3000 series. These should be roughly the same $ range

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Old 09-21-2008, 05:28 PM
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Well, you don't give us much info to go on. Are you talking chartplotter only? Or plotter, fishfinder, radar, information guagues, autopilots, etc, etc??

For plotters, between these two, Garmin. And if it's the 3xxx series, you need to contact Jim at BOE for a killer deal.

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Old 09-21-2008, 05:41 PM
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I am sorry, what I have now and all I intend to use the chartplotter and sonar only. Someday i may add a radar. (maybe)

BOE ?????
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Old 09-21-2008, 05:45 PM
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tough choice both have the good's and bad's.RM has a awsome fishfinder and a great radar.chartplotter could use some help.there not real eay to learn to use but once you get it there not bad.Garmin has the best chart's and not the worst fishfinder but not real great either.but win's hand's down in ease of use.i made it simple and use both.you will be happy with either
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Old 09-21-2008, 05:55 PM
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Go to the THT main forum page, and look under Marine Electronics with BOE.

Agree with tommy that Ray has an edge in the sounders, but is clearly the winner with chartplotters.
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:19 PM
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Between those two IMO Garmin. Granted the FF is not quite what the Ray is but the plotter and less problems makes up for it. FF/Radar choice would be Furuno. Why is that not a choice?
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Old 09-22-2008, 05:57 AM
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The main thing I am trying to get opinions on is RELIABILITY. I've seen both manufacturer's units in action and they both do what I want.

But,,,I want what everyone wants (EVERYTHING) !!!! LOL....... Really though I am sick of down time, worrying if the unit wil go out, and especially intermittent problems. Had to send my Ray CP back twice for the same issue, both times they said nothing wrong with it. But they updated the software.

Cat I will look at Furuno too, but the choices between 3 manufacturers and all different models and options is.....well "do the math".....
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:16 AM
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Between those two IMO Garmin. Granted the FF is not quite what the Ray is but the plotter and less problems makes up for it.

The new gsd22 digital sounder box works with the 3000 series garmin and is much better than the old sounder boxes.


My father runs a c80 package and I ran a garmin 3010c on my old boat and am having a 3010c installed on my new boat. I much prefer the garmin. The plotter is a lot better IMHO. While I ran the gsd20 sounder box on my old boat, I am hoping the gsd22 digital sounder is on par with that of the Ray.

Check out http://www.boemarine.com
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:44 AM
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I think I got more for my money with Garmin. After studying the difference between satellite weather features, I chose XM (Garmin) for what was to me better graphics and faster updating. That was as impartial analysis as I could muster, because I truly do not like the RM chartplotter user interface. It is inconsistant and counterintuitive, meaning that you have to work with it a long time before your fingers memorize the maze to get to a particular screen. After a couple agonizing years with a monochrome radar, the GMR 18 is a wonder. I haven't compared myself, but I have been told by experienced captains that the MARPA feature is not well done on the Raymarine either. NOTE: you will need a separate compass for MARPA to work on either one, but the Garmin screen registration is tighter than the Raymarine without one.
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:29 AM
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With reliability as the criteria that makes it easy: Furuno, Garmin then RM.
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:34 AM
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Raymarine wants flat fee repairs of upwards 999.00. ***This is for them to simply look at it*** - a unit thats hardly been used, protected from elements and in mint condition - 10 inch sounder/plotter stopped working for no reason. Never had problems with Sitex, Garmin or Furuno (20 years).
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:10 AM
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I have done alot of FF, Auto Pilot, GPS installs for guys up here and if you want reliability, go with Garmin. I have a 3010 on my Current boat with a GSD21 and the XM weather. The FF works great, even with just a transom mount. All depends on how it was installed and how its set-up. XM weather is great! I have been doing alot of Garmin stuff with NO complaints, which most are ditching the RM stuff to goto Garmin (sick of electronics repair downtime). Lowrance and RM are the worst for problems. I refuse to install either one.

I just sold my current boat and am looking at replacing it with a used Tiara. Most all of them here in MI have RM. I'm ripping that RM crap out and putting it on Ebay.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:23 PM
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Love my Garmin for chartplotter use!!! However, I find the Garmin's FF and radar subpar so I went with Furuno's NavNet2 for FF and radar and love the setup!!! You owe it to yourself to consider Furuno in there as well!!!
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Old 09-22-2008, 01:56 PM
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Love my Garmin for chartplotter use!!! However, I find the Garmin's FF and radar subpar so I went with Furuno's NavNet2 for FF and radar and love the setup!!! You owe it to yourself to consider Furuno in there as well!!!
Gonna have to disagree with you on this one brennan. I am not sure who's boat you were on that had all the garmin electronics on it....but they didn't have them set up right if you believe them to be "subpar."
On previous boats I have owned 3 furuno fish finders and 2 furuno radars...including the 4kw furuno dome on my last contender. I believe the garmin to be just as good as the furuno for what we do and a heck of a lot easier to use. Now if I was trying to pick up a group of 10 birds 24 miles away then maybe the bigger open array furunos would be better....but My 4kw garmin radar as far as I can see does everything my 4kw furuno did...picks up obstructions nicely and is able to track thunderstorms. I have the fishfinder set up now with a gsd 22 box and 1000w transducer....works awesome and couldn't ask for better. Not going to say that the garmin ff and radar is superior to furuno cause its not....but for your everyday average fisherman it is more than sufficient...and a dream to use!
Like others have said...the garmin chartplotter can't be beat
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:52 PM
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This is all good stuff...

Keep em coming.

I contacted BOE and got some prices on the 4010. Nice big display, and i have to add the gs22, and transducer.
I guess it comes with the gps antenna.

Getting closer to a decision, and it sounds like Garmin over Ray for sure.
furuno are too pricey and probably overkill for my needs.
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:42 PM
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Have had Raymarine for three years. Good stuff ----WHEN IT WORKS,

C system is coming back from repair for the third time. You do have to pay a flat rate. They will give you a "break" on that price.

This time they found nothing wrong but the unit will not recognize that $320 gps antenna. I'm sick of it. Also, the screen damages easily. It's got some kind of material painted on it for anti-glare. Breath hard on the screen and it comes off in pieces. Then it's a real mess.

Super units when they work. With the huge expense of sonar, gps and other peripherals it's not reasonable to change. Otherwise I would switch to Garmin. My Raymarine has been too unreliable.

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Old 09-23-2008, 12:48 PM
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Based on what I've heard and read in other sites. Garmin is likley the way to go for my needs.
I might go up a notch to the 4010. BOE is been giving me lots of info. Big screen and expandable for the future.

Can you guys that use Garmins tell me... how is the redraw rate on the chartplotter?

My Ray is PAINFULLY slow. I might as well go get a cup of coffee and come back later to see the chart when zooming.

Again thanks for all the info..you guys rock.....
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Old 09-23-2008, 02:06 PM
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How many digits does Ray allow for naming waypoints? Just confirmed with Garmin today that they did take away the comments field with the 4xxx and 5xxx plotters. I had assumed they would have given us more digits for naming the waypoint if they took away the 20 digit comments field. But not. Still only 10 digits to name the waypoint. Talk about a big decrease in memory demand for Garmin! And a real short changing for us. The 3xxx series had 10 digits for naming and 20 digits for comments. Now we only get 10 digits for naming and that's it!! Sucks. Not sure where the 'upgrade' is in that.

Garmin, if you're reading this, please give back the comment field. Or at least give us 20 digits for waypoint naming.
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Old 09-23-2008, 02:23 PM
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This is NOT even a quesiton if you ask me. Garmin has it, hands down right now.

I was a Ray guy for many years. But right now, Garmin is blowing their products away. The tocuhscreens, huge displays, amazingly easy to use software, and packed functionality just can't be beat. The most important this is, you do not need a manual (other than install manual of course!) to use ANY of their products. Can't say that for Ray. The Garmin menu's are incredibly ergonimic to use, very user friendly, and yet PACKED with features.

Functionality wise, I have the new GSD22 sounder unit with a 1000 watt tilted thru hull ducer. It is almost identical to the clarity and functionality of my Raymarine digital sounder. So taking everything else out of the discussion (menus, features...) and just looking at, how they work (most important thing for serious fisherman), I would say there is no difference. So throw in the ease of use, and features of the Garmin units, and now you blow Ray away.

Something else I can tell you in comparison. I spent litterally $1000's fixing Raymarines bugs and problems over a few year period. that is, I would find a bug in the software where something didn't work, and they would "fix" it by SELLIING me an upgrade of some sort wether it be new software, some new peice of hardware or in some cases, BOTH. That really pissed me off over the years!! If you sell something with features, make them work!! Support your product. They did NOT do that.

Garmin on the hand, has updated my software to fix problems/bugs, and ADD a crap load of cool new features, and software changes we (users) have asked for 4 times in a few months. The upgrade in this case, has cost me nothing, and has taken all of 30 seconds to install. In fact, they not only fixed problems and added new stuff, specifically emailed me asking how I liked them a few weeks later. And then asked, what else would you like to see....

Hope that helps.

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The redraw rate is extrememly fast on the Garmins. Not a problem
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Old 09-23-2008, 02:46 PM
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Bird, how about asking Garmin to give us back some digits for waypoint naming! The 3xxx series had 10 digits for naming PLUS a 20 digit comments field. The 4xxx and 5xxx series only gives us 10 digits for naming and took away the comments field. For me, that's huge. You'd think they would at least have given us 20 digits for naming. That still saved them 10 digits. Seriously, can you see what they say?

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