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Old 12-20-2002, 09:38 AM
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Has anyone had a chance to compare the 182C to the CP150C chart plotter? I have to make my buy sometime soon. I was set on the 182C, but a friend has recommended the Standard Horizon CP150C.

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Old 12-20-2002, 03:12 PM
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I can't compare them...but you CAN'T go wrong with Garmin. I know Standard has come a long way, but... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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I have the 170, works great with the cmap shows well in sunlight and a lot of info, looks like paper charts, easy install and EXCELLENT product support from Standard, BUY IT! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

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I had looked at the Standard 170 in comparison to the 2006 when I was looking at Chart Plotters. The Standard was FAR brighter in the store and is clearly visible in Daylight and direct Sunlight. The Garmin was not.
While Blue charts are different from CMAP, I do not ahve any problem with the new Blue Charts, especially after the software update (Free from CMAP) that went into the Standard.

At 2 times the price, I do not see 2 times the performance from the Garmin over the standard.

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Go with the Garmin 182C. The Standard Horizons do not allow for as many routes, waypoints, etc.
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:25 AM
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The Standard 150 is 5" monochrome, the 182C is 5" color. The closer comparison would be the Standard 170. Similarly priced, the Standard has a 6" screen. The Garmin does have more waypoints/routes, but I would have trouble filling 600 wps and 20 routes. A better priced alternative would be the recently intoduced 150C, the color version of the 150, about $200 cheaper than the Garmin. With the 200 bucks you could buy the companion Intrepid VHF and take advantage of the additional features Standard offers when their DSC radio is connected to their plotter.

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Old 12-23-2002, 11:51 AM
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Thanks everyone for your advice. I appreciate it. Will probably go with the Garmin, based on their customer service.

Merry Christmas.


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The Standard/ Hiorzon has a better picture. Here's a little known fact on the Standard / Horizon chart plotters interfaced with a Standard/ Horzon Spectrum VHF. If you have this setup and your buddy has this same setup ONLY. There is a address book in the VHF. Each of these VHF's has a special number to identify it. Now if you and your buddy have entered each others ID/ADDRESS into each others VHF this is what you can do! You can send a request to your buddy for his position and it will ring the VHF just like a telephone. NO TALKING. He sends it to you and the chartplotter will show his exact position. No words have been spoken . VERY STELTH. No one else can get this imfo unless they have his ID/ADDRESS intered into the address book with the same Standard/ Horizon VHF. Most people don't about this. I've done a bunch of reserch. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

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Old 12-24-2002, 06:44 AM
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I don't think there is really much difference between the customer service of the two companies. I have had personal experience with Standard and come away Very satisfied (New antenna to correct issue shipped overnight to me)
Once again, Want to thank Garmin for driving the prices of Standard and C-Map NT down considerably in the recent past. But not enough to buy them. I think that the C-MAP / Standard combination I have is excellent (And I do have it mated with the Spectrum. Which I think was not my best decision, due to the Hailer being integrated with the Radio. Should have bought separate for that job.)

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irish;

I'm with you I have the Intrepid and the Ram mic and the 170. Matter of fact I looked at Furuno and the garmin for my new boat [coming soon] but decided to stay with the Standard combo.

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Old 12-24-2002, 08:35 PM
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The little stick on the standard looks like it would be tough to manipulate while underway. I have a garmin 176 and have never had any problem viewing it. I have used a buddies 2010C and it is great also. Bluechart Charts are very accurate more so than C amp IMHO. Good Luck..
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I would guess that shortly after the first of the year, Garmin will cut drastically the price of the 2006C. West Marine had it for $1495 or $1395 some weeks ago for a special promotion, and that couldn't have been done without assistance from Garmin, since both of those prices are way below even larger dealer wholesale.

Standard Horizon has put a lot of pressure on Garmin with its 170C, which sells for under a grand, compared to the $1850 or so of the Garmin. I'd think Garmin would drop the 2006C to around $1199 to be competitive.

I tried both units today at West Marine. There's no question the 170C is a "bargain" compared to the 2006C. But....the Garmin, with its keypad, seems to me to be a lot easier to use on a bouncing boat, especially in entering data or waypoints. The 170C's "joystick" would bring me no joy on the deck of a smaller boat.

No question the display on both units is spectacular.
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Gentlemen,
I've noticed that the cost of and coverage of the Bluecharts and C-MAP weren't discussed. I too have been checking out the Garmin and Standard Chartplotters on a few different sites. C-Maps cost $100.00 more than the Bluecharts for the same area. The edge in price for the chips needed to run the unit goes to Garmin. I too really like the Standard 170, but I just don't understand why the C-Map is so much more .
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Nwriter;

Are you purely speculating on the possible price drop on the 2006 or do you have some real info? I really like the 2006C and am close to pulling the trigger, but a drop like that can make a fella wait.....for a little while anyway. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

Also, I missed that promo at West Marine - I would have jumped on one of those had I seen it- oh well, [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]

Any additional info is welcomed!!
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A little of both. I was talking to a West Marine store manager this past week, and told him I'd buy a 2006C if it were priced more competitively with the 170C. He said he thought Garmin was testing the waters when it broke the price on that unit for a while, and he expected to "confront" the Garmin sales force in January at a meeting he's attending in Monterey, CA with various companies that sell to West. He said a lot of people have been pushing Garmin on that unit, and he expects its price to drop considerably.

You really have to wonder about the chutpah of these electronics companies. The lowest retail I have seen on the 2006C is about $1800 and change, and for that kind of money, you can buy a good laptop and a good nav software/plotter software package and a GPS to attach to the computer. Nice as the 2006C is, there is nothing in that unit that justifies its price.

Bring on more competition and the price will fall.
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