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Old 03-17-2004, 07:34 PM
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Can any body tell me were and what kind of software I can put on my pc to load waypoints to and from my 1833c. I was told gps communicator would work but I can not get it to load on my windows xp. any suggestions. THANKS
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Old 03-18-2004, 06:24 AM
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Is this what your looking for ?

www.gpsu.co.uk/



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I second GPSU. I used it for my GP31. Alan is a good guy and constantly updates that program.
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I was actually the person who asked Alan to incorporate compatability with the Furuno Navnet units into GPSU when I got my 1833C two years ago. He did a great job and it will allow you to manage your waypoints and routes on the PC, including changing waypoint symbols and colors. You will need the full licensed version if you want to handle more than a limited number of waypoints, but I think he really deserves the support. It's pretty cheap in any case, cheaper than GPS Communicator and much better.

Just be careful of one thing: unlike Garmin unts, when you upload to the Furuno it replaces the complete data set. For example, you can't create 10 new waypoints on your PC and then upload them to add to your existing 396 saved wayppoint. If you do that, the upload will erase your old ones and you will end up with just the 10 new ones. You muct download your existing waypoints and savethem to a file, then make your changes, corrections, or additions and upload the new complete set.
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GPSU looks good, I just order the full version to use with my NavNet 1823c. I had been waiting for C-Map's PC Planner product to support Furuno but apparently the release this spring won't be happening, and may not for some time to come. What a shame, anyway GPSU looks like it will do what I need it to do for only $40.

Saltdog - what about routes, will they too be erased and replaced with what you upload?
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I had been waiting for C-Map's PC Planner product to support Furuno but apparently the release this spring won't be happening, and may not for some time to come. What a shame, ....
Whats makes you say that? Did they tell you that?
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Wayne Tj --

Yes, you need to back up the routes also. It seems to treat all the user data as a unit, both waypoints and routes. When you upload any data, it erases whatever is already in memory and replaces it.
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Birdman,

Yes and no. C-Map told me that they are no closer to resolving the issues related to Furuno's proprietary memory card format/form-factor than they were last Fall when they said they'd have by this April, and will no longer give me a target date. And then from a third party who is in the business and knows one the three head Furuno honchos here in the US, I was told not to hold my breath.

Furuno (Japan) better wake up before Raymarine has stolen the entire market, because the issues here are not technical, they're political/marketing posturing bullsh-t.
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Gotcha. Ok. So what you meant to say is "The latest C-map PCPlanner version due out this spring (this or next month C-map is saying), will not solve the FURUNO issues. But the new software WILL be released.

Scared the hell out of me!!! It sounded like you had info that C-map was not going to release the new version.....


Anywho, I'd bet all your moeny, Raymarine owns Furuno before long. Just a hunch. And your right, with there (Ray's) new products, they are stealing a large portion of the market share from Furuno.
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THANKS GUYS, THIS LOOKS LIKE WHAT I NEED.
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Anywho, I'd bet all your moeny, Raymarine owns Furuno before long. Just a hunch. And your right, with there (Ray's) new products, they are stealing a large portion of the market share from Furuno.
What are you smoking today? Raymarine sells $150 million/year. What do you think Furuno does? They are not a publicly traded company so I can't find the numbers but I'll bet all your money that it's many times that. What market share are they stealing anyway. They have a long way to go to recover the market share that they have lost. They are not going to eat into the Navnet sales unless they network the C-series.

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Birdman,

Yes and no. C-Map told me that they are no closer to resolving the issues related to Furuno's proprietary memory card format/form-factor than they were last Fall when they said they'd have by this April, and will no longer give me a target date. And then from a third party who is in the business and knows one the three head Furuno honchos here in the US, I was told not to hold my breath.

Furuno (Japan) better wake up before Raymarine has stolen the entire market, because the issues here are not technical, they're political/marketing posturing bullsh-t.
I'm using GPSU also. It works better than anything else I could find and the support is excellent.

Why is it Furunos fault that C-Map can't provide software? Are they withholding information that C-Map needs to support them? Given the fiasco with their software that is supposed to support the Raymarine products I won't be racing out to buy a Furuno version. Most of the problems I have heard about with the Raymarine products seemed to be basic programming failures. Unable to upload waypoints unless they are assembled as a route? My impression of the C-Map software is that it is badly written and buggy (that's not from personal experience with it but I have seen plenty of complaints about it). I write software for a living and I would be looking for a job if I released software that failed to meet the specifications as badly as the C-Map software.

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Birdman - 2004-03-18 6:08 PM

Anywho, I'd bet all your moeny, Raymarine owns Furuno before long. Just a hunch. And your right, with there (Ray's) new products, they are stealing a large portion of the market share from Furuno.

Birdman, that is the most asinine comment I’ve heard lately on this board!
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Hey, you guys think what you want. But I'd bet alot of moeny Ray and Furuno become one company before long. Mark my words. It only makes sense for both of them. Consolidation has occured in alot of industries, this one will be the next. Just a hunch. Why is that so hard to beleive? Funny how poeple there pants all wet when somebody mentions two companies possibly merging or one buying the other. It doesn't mean that one is better than the other or .... it just means it would be in there best interest if they did it. By the say, I have no information whatsoever about this, just my own feeling.

Anyway, EDK, I don't know what your looing at statistically, but Raymarine was first with "networking" capabilities, as they are generally first with most advances (sunlight viewable screens, WAAS gps, radar overlay, digital sounders....). I'd bet ther are more recreational networked ray stuff out there than networked furuno stuff out there. So I doubt there is any "catching up to do" by Ray.
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If Raymarine and Furuno become one, it won't be Raymarine buying Furuno. That would be like Red Hat buying Microsoft.

I'd take you up on that second bet too. You can walk the docks at any marina down here and see 5 Furuno installations for every Raymarine. One area where Raymarine have made some inroads is in OEM installations with some of the larger boat manufacturers. They don't lead the market in terms of market share (if they did they would be doing more than $150 million in sales worldwide.

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Bird, your opinion is so biased when it comes to electronics that I rarely count your opinion on them as any value. Just because you invested your money (for whatever reason) into their product does not make it the best out there.

Companies do merge all the time and hell who knows Ray and Furuno may one day be one. But your post implies that Ray is taking market share and therefore will beat Furuno into submission and buy them. I don't think this is very likely and I would like to see your numbers on Furuno's losing market share.

I do think Ray is selling more units. Not sure if they are selling anymore than Furuno, but maybe. I will say that while recently looking at new boats we had a few dealers shoving Ray products at us. When asked they didn't hesitate to say it was because of the incentives Ray was giving them. This is actually smart on Ray's part to help gain market share.

Another reason they are maybe selling more is due to price. Ray will allow you to get more for your money. Costing less does not make it better or worse. But I have found thru my years you get what you pay for.
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Birdman,

Yes and no. C-Map told me that they are no closer to resolving the issues related to Furuno's proprietary memory card format/form-factor than they were last Fall when they said they'd have by this April, and will no longer give me a target date. And then from a third party who is in the business and knows one the three head Furuno honchos here in the US, I was told not to hold my breath.

Furuno (Japan) better wake up before Raymarine has stolen the entire market, because the issues here are not technical, they're political/marketing posturing bullsh-t.
I'm using GPSU also. It works better than anything else I could find and the support is excellent. Why is it Furunos fault that C-Map can't provide software? Are they withholding information that C-Map needs to support them? Given the fiasco with their software that is supposed to support the Raymarine products I won't be racing out to buy a Furuno version. Most of the problems I have heard about with the Raymarine products seemed to be basic programming failures. Unable to upload waypoints unless they are assembled as a route? My impression of the C-Map software is that it is badly written and buggy (that's not from personal experience with it but I have seen plenty of complaints about it). I write software for a living and I would be looking for a job if I released software that failed to meet the specifications as badly as the C-Map software. Ed
It's not a software issue, it's the hardware to read and write to the Furuno Memory Cards, which are different than most other manufactures. From what I understand, the ball is in Furuno's court to resolve the matter but they are dragging their feet. The only built in waypoint transfer support in the Furuno unit is with a Yoeman (which to say the least is not very popular in the rec boating market).
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as they are generally first with most advances (sunlight viewable screens, WAAS gps, radar overlay, digital sounders....)

Raymarine might claim the WAAS thing but really they are only a contractor and mind you the second one, that the FAA offered the contract and specifications to.


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Look at the boats over 40 feet most have Furuno fish finders and radars.
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