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Old 05-10-2008, 05:58 AM
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I know this is a pretty specific question, but I thought someone here may have this experience.

Has anybody seen the performance of the both the Furuno fcv 585 and the Garmin 3000, 4000, or 5000 series multi function units using the ff function? I'd be running either one through a B-164 1KW transducer and I'm wondering how big a difference between the Garmin and Furuno. These would both be new units and the Garmin would be run through the GSD 22. I know the Furuno is probably better but I'm wondering how much better. I do all offshore fishing in deep water.

I did a search and could only find a couple of comments on this particular comparison.

Thanks all.
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Default Re: Compare Garmin FF to Furuno

I would be interested to hear this too. The Furuno is more intuitive with direct access to gain etc via dials/knobs.

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Me too!

But, I'd also like to see the Garmin and Furnuo sounders compared against the new RayMarine sounder module (the DSM 400 that is priced at $2700.00) as well on Rays site.

Some seller on the net has the Ray DSM 400 unit available for order. Unclear whether the E series displays from Ray are now compatable, but the most recent manual for the E80 and E120 displays makes reference to the DSM 400.

Something in the Ray sales stuff for the DSM 400 says something about the DSM 400 when used with "Raymarine approved" transducers.

So. I'm putting that manufacturer in the ring also.

Is this a "Let's go spend some mo money" from RayMarine?

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Default Re: Compare Garmin FF to Furuno

Reported in another post:

Subject: RE: what sonar/fishfinders do you feel are good

TheOtherLine posted:

"I've got both the GSD 22 hooked up to my 4212 and a Furuno 585. 600kw ducers on both.

Hands down, Furuno makes the better FF. Garmin takes the prize for chartplotters IMHO"

I had a Furono 582L hooked to a 600W thru hull transducer which was much better than my 3210/GSD22 hooked to a B260. I would like to see how the 4212 looked hooked up to the B260.


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Default Re: Compare Garmin FF to Furuno

That's kind of what I was expecting. Thanks much. Furuno has been making kicka$$ fishfinders for a long time. I've always used garmin chatrplotters and I'm now upgrading to the world of color. I think I'll get the FCV585 and use the Garmin for GPS and Radar. I only use the radar to avoid bumping into folks so if it is not the best out there I'm OK with that. No need to see birds etc. I do need a really good fishfinder though and the bathy charts and my familiarty on the Garmin brand make it my choice for GPS.

Thanks again.
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Capt Fred .....

I've used both FF extensively and while the GDS 22 is a good unit the Furuno is better. You'll be surprised with the Garmin radar(I've installed three GMR 18 HDto date)and all I can say is Garmin hit a homerun with this unit. You can;t beat the price and value of the unit.

I have a lot of underway video of the Furnuno FCV 620 (smaller brother of the 585) if you'd like to see it. I don't remember if you've seen it?
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Tom: do you have an opinion of the difference between the GMR 18 and the 18HD?
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Tom,

Do you know it the 18 has the same bolt pattern and cable plugs as the 20? I was thinking of upgrading but didn't want to change my radar mount or run new power and data cables.

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Thanks Tom. I'll look for that vid on your web site.
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Here you go Fred ....

My 620 is connected to an Airmar P66 TMD

http://bluewaterpirate.phanfare.com/...ageID=33486016
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runk ....

The bolt patterns and enclosed wiring is all the same between the 18/18hd/24/24hd.

http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/2023_...structions.pdf

sandya .....

There is a difference in the quality and crispness of the radar display but I think some of that difference is the 4000/5000 cp vs the the older 3000 cp. The HD is just a sharp display.
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Got it. Thanks again Tom.
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Tom,

Thanks for taking the time to share all the info / pics / video on the FCV620.
In general I've seen many favorable reviews for that unit,
and also seeing your actual usage media has influenced me to upgrade from a FCV600L.
I’ve installed the new FCV620 and looking forward to using it when I splash in 1-2 weeks.
Expectations are high, the ole FCV600L was a darn good unit…
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Thanks Joe .... nice boat!
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Default RE: Compare Garmin FF to Furuno

Fred, I used to have a boat with a Furuno 1833C combo with radar. I bought a new boat in 2007 and went cheap with a 3210 Garmin Combo.
i like the easy menu and lack of trackball on the Garmin but the radar overlay and the FF were crap. The chart is excellent.
So, I installed the Furuno 585 and get the resolution I need for wreck fishing in the gulf in depths up to 120'.
The Garmin 4000 and 5000 are supposed to address these issues so start there if want to stay with Garmin.
Otherwise, go Furuno and learn to use their buttons and knobs. Their new units do away with the ball anyway.
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Thanks for the info. I ended up ordering a 4210. I'll use it as a chart plotter for now and eventually get a radar for it also. I've got a JRC 1500 2KW now so it will be a step up from that. I'll eventually also change out my Raymarine 600X to the Furuno 585. Hopefully be all upgraded for next summer but the new chartplotter is going to be a huge improvement just by itself.

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