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Old 05-01-2008, 04:45 AM
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I have a Suzuki 300 hp with two SMIS gauges. The engine came without the paddle wheel so I don't know my water speed. The Raymarine E120 does not communicate with the NEMA 2000 network so there is no SOG feed either.

First question, how do I get these gauges to report mpg?

Second question, why do they take forever to come alive, you can see a super light image and as time passes the gauges start to work normally. Is this causing any damage?

Old 05-01-2008, 07:12 AM
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The only way to get them to report MPH is to feed them speed data. You can do that with a paddlewheel sensor or from GPS data. You can add a paddlewheel sensor or the Lowrance LGC-3000 GPS module to the NMEA bus pretty easily. Talk to Jim at BOE he sells them.

The gauges should be perfectly readable the instant you turn them on. Try adjusting the contrast on them. Another possibility is the "instrument light" feed to them may be miswired. (It doesn't even need to be connected - its used primarily for dimming at night)

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I tried the contrast, nothing seems to fix this issue. I don't know how they did the wiring, I had the dealer do it, which really means I should have done it myself so I could work on it myself.

I understand now that the 300hp does not come standard with a MPH indicator, how bad is that. That's like buying a high end car and not getting a radio with it, give me a break sometimes this stuff is so discouraging. Right now, if I were in this industry, I would be ensuring nothing ridiculous would be happening but that just seems like the nature of the beast.

Another note, the Lowrance products work fine with the NEMA 2000 but there is no "plug in solution" to put Raymarine in touch with that network. If anyone knows of one, please let me know so I already have a state of the art GPS which is an island on my boat.
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If you already have a NMEA 2000 network established, it sounds like all you need to do is to connect the E120 to it. Maretron has a Raymarine E series to NMEA 2000 cable that connects to the back of the E120. Combine that with a NMEA 2K "T" and you should be in business. Just add that to your existing network and you should be good to go.

Jim at BOE (a THT sponsor) should have the parts in stock for you to get started.
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Jim, I sent you a PM.
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Originally Posted by conduffer View Post
I tried the contrast, nothing seems to fix this issue. I don't know how they did the wiring, I had the dealer do it, which really means I should have done it myself so I could work on it myself.
This is perfectly normal. When it gets cold in the morning. (I was in northern florida durning october and the temp was in the 40's) it will take a little time for the screen to warm up.



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I understand now that the 300hp does not come standard with a MPH indicator, how bad is that. That's like buying a high end car and not getting a radio with it, give me a break sometimes this stuff is so discouraging. Right now, if I were in this industry, I would be ensuring nothing ridiculous would be happening but that just seems like the nature of the beast.
the zuke 300 comes with a built in water pressure speed sensor on the lower unit. No stupid paddle wheel to break.



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Another note, the Lowrance products work fine with the NEMA 2000 but there is no "plug in solution" to put Raymarine in touch with that network. If anyone knows of one, please let me know so I already have a state of the art GPS which is an island on my boat.
Did you get an answer yet? Please do share that answer. Actually post the part number.

I am also looking to get rid of the SMIS guage and hook up the suzuki engine management info directly into the E120.
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Here we are many years later, this is still an issue with my install. I wanted to have a backup regular fuel gauge and the engine's built in fuel management system but that never worked out.

I did not get the E120 to work with the engine and its almost time to get a new one. If anyone has a suggestion on how to get this stuff linked up please let me know.
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Here we are many years later, this is still an issue with my install. I wanted to have a backup regular fuel gauge and the engine's built in fuel management system but that never worked out.

I did not get the E120 to work with the engine and its almost time to get a new one. If anyone has a suggestion on how to get this stuff linked up please let me know.
OK just get the LGC 3000 gps antenna and add the "tee" (that comes in the box) into the exsiting network backbone. I think you will have to configure the LMS400 "gauges" aka displays to use gps speed rather than paddle wheel. Since this is really old, I think the LGC 3000 is now replaced by a LGC 4000 or later? Now again since this is old, your stuff is now old, meaning the network probaly had the orginal BLUE connectors so now you will only be able to get the newer LGC 4000 which will have the later red (or can be black) connectors. Bottom line you will probably need a blue to red adapter to add the GPS and bare in mind the the antenna has only about a 3 or4 foot cable so maybe a nmea 2000 cable of the right lenght will be needed too. I think the LMF 400 fuel management system is great and you will have tons of info that most people (me) likle to look at. I think you should download the LMF 400 manual so that you can configure the LMF's to your liking and find out a little more about what you are doing. Oh, be sure to get the right gender adapter. You may find it informative to log on to browns point marine and browse their suzuki SMIS gage stuff.

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