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Old 12-14-2003, 06:22 PM
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I will be fishing the Gulf out of Venice Lousiana, on a 26' Glacier Bay. Money is limited - would you buy an EPIRB.

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Old 12-14-2003, 07:15 PM
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Why would you not buy an Epirb?......John


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Old 12-14-2003, 07:32 PM
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quote:Originally posted by cudacat:
Money is limited - would you buy an EPIRB.Yes- The money will not matter if / when you need it.
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Old 12-14-2003, 07:48 PM
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Same theory holds true for a life raft. Some people think I'm crazy for having an epirb and a raft, but I haven't had anyone yet turn down an offshore trip because I have them.

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Old 12-14-2003, 08:47 PM
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I personally would rather have the raft than the EPIRB...I can last a long time floating in a good raft, but not very long in a Mae West. The Coasties won't even get out to you for a few hours if your EPIRB goes off.

I personally have a Plastimo Offshore 6+...inflatable double insulated floor, canopy, double tube with tube in tube design, etc. Made for the open ocean, it should work great in the GOM. I got it used on e-bay for $1200, then spent about $500 more to switch it from valise pack to canister and have it inspected and brought up to date. That's less than 1/2 of what a new one costs and not much more than a good EPIRB with GPS.

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Old 12-15-2003, 05:28 AM
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I for one don't think you're crazy for having an Epirb & Raft. I call that being smart. I have a 6 Man Offshore Raft, Globalfix Epirb, Handheld VHF, Nice Medical Kit, and a Bunch of other Safety Gear. It is priceless if ever needed.
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Old 12-15-2003, 05:44 AM
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I have two, an older 406 and a new gpirb. You will be operating in the Mississippi during the winter when the water temp is in the 40s. With the gpirb, SAR initiation is usually within 30 minutes...it's a lot easier to hold on when you have hope.
It's hard to spend $800 for something you hope to never use but I try to think about floating in chilly water wondering what my neices will spend that money on when I'm gone makes it a whole lot easier!
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Old 12-15-2003, 03:24 PM
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Tuner,

I'm a rescue helo pilot for the USAF and have dealt a lot with the Coasties and rescued my share of boaters, hikers, etc. 30 minutes to SAR initiation is probably pretty close...assuming they aren't doing other SARs. Also assumes they get a good hit and don't think it's a false.

Also, 30 minutes is time to launch...if there's a helo, figure at least another 30 minutes til they arrive on scene (if you're lucky enough to be within 50 miles from the nearest helo station). If you're not close to a helo station, figure several hours before a boat comes.

Are EPIRBS a good thing? Yes, but they are not a substitute for a raft. I'm always amazed by folks that buy an EPIRB and think it will save their lives...in most cases it won't. A raft however almost always will.

Bottom line...both is good, but if you can only get one, get the raft.

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Old 12-15-2003, 03:48 PM
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Yes I have one. And if I fished anywhere offshore, I'd have one.

Mine cost $850. Is your life worth $850?

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Birdman,

Do you have a raft? Is your life only worth $850 ;-)

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Old 12-15-2003, 04:38 PM
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Harry,

The pilots at Tyndall used to have a great time when we were offshore by getting supersonic and sneaking up on us from behind on the deck....I've fired many a brown flare just after the jet went by.

I agree the raft is a good idea. Because the gpirb transmits not only a mayday and ship info but your position as well, it eliminates most of the false alarms. If the position is offshore and you don't answer the phone number submitted with your application, they're on the way.

Fishing offshore is inherently dangerous. I'm old enough to want to reduce the risk as much as possible.
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Old 12-15-2003, 05:36 PM
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Tuner,

I'm not saying not to get an EPIRB, I'm saying you're better off spending the money on a liferaft.

The EPIRB alerts the cavalry, but you might still get wet and might drown (remember it's usually pretty snotty out when something really catastrophic goes wrong).

The life raft keeps you dry and safe, but you might not get picked up as quickly (always leave a float plan with someone who'll alert the Coasties if you're late), but you won't drown either.

Wich would you prefer...a shot at a quick pickup before the boat sinks or a nearly sure thing that you won''t drown and possibly a longer wait for pickup.

Lastly, if you really want insurance, get both the raft and EPIRB, and get a handheld GPS and a satellite phone, too.

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Old 12-15-2003, 05:59 PM
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It's entirely possible for good people to disagree, I have two epirbs and a raft but I would buy the epirb first.

Next up is a paintball stinger missle for those jet boys!
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Tuner,

Okay, we'll agree to disagree ;-) Shoot the pointy nose guys all you want, but leave us whop-whops alone!

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Old 12-16-2003, 09:54 AM
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i can't imagine bobbing around in the blue with the epirb going off and a lifejacket around your neck for an hour or 2....every time we fish offshore sharks come up in the spread...have always seen a fin..not to mention hypothermia

i would much rather be in a life raft than bobbing in the water with an eprib only

but agreeing to disagree is a definite...and each person talking about this is mauch better off than those with the bare minimum
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Old 12-16-2003, 09:57 AM
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Harry,

given your profession what is your opinion on sat phones...viable alternative to Epirbs? useless? better? i know it is just your opinion not an endorsement from the service...i won't sue


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quote:Originally posted by Harry Brosofsky:
Birdman,

Do you have a raft? Is your life only worth $850 ;-)

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Old 12-16-2003, 12:20 PM
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Birdman,

Sounds like you value your life at more than the cost of an EPIRB ;-)

Baitdragger,

Sat phones work very well, but don't tell your position.

EPIRBs, especially with GPS built in, tell your position, but not your condition.

Once you get fairly far offshore, the phone will be useless, but for the average offshore guy going 100-200 miles, the sat phone should work well. The bonus is you can call the dock, wife, or whomever and let them know you're gonna be late and not to send out the cavalry.

Like I said, best bet is to have them all: raft, sat phone, gps, and epirb, especially if you plan to be away from normal fishing and shipping lanes.

BTW, when we deploy, we issue sat phones to each crew...when you go down in bad guy land, they're the only way to communicate in many cases.

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Old 12-16-2003, 01:02 PM
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Guy's not that it matter's but get one or both ... just get the one that float's first!!!!! I'm rigging the new Boat to run a 100 miles off shore ... Now here is the kicker .... can I do it ...Yes ... can I do it alone .... Yes .....Will I .... Nope .... Buddy up and take two boat's if your going that far .... Just my .02 worth !!!!!!!.....John


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Old 12-16-2003, 02:50 PM
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JT burf,

I agree, but you can't always find someone equipped to come along or willing to spend the gas, etc. FWIW, I don't run alone on my boat, but I do run my boat alone.

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