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Old 03-28-2007, 03:30 PM
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so what do you guys think?
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Good thing.

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I hope they will continue to provide the level of support that has built TR-1.
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I think there are upsides and downsides. TR-1 was a small compnay but had the ability to help everyone with installs and had a steadfast polict not to go to the big box houses and use either self install with help or authorized trained installers. I hope that will continue with Garmin but not sure how that will work. I certainly see prices coming down and being incorporated into garmin current devices and cetainly the interface between garmin and tr-1 will be better...Garmin now owns the best performing autopilot and I understand the chielf tr-1 engineer will stay (for a while?) So we'll see.....Sean gets home next week so I'm sure we'll have a full report soon.
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I just hung up w/ Sean he did not sya much...yet. We will see in the next couple of weeks.
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http://www.garmin.com/pressroom/corporate/032807.html


looks like Doug may stay for a while - who knows? but that's a great thing...what a nice guy...
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Is this public knowledge? or rummor?

This is Shaun's Sail by the way, took him like 30mins, look how happy he is.....

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I hope they don't phase out the TR-1 Gold product or limit it's use to just garmin GPS systems as there is no other autopilot for trolling motors.
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I think it means the end of the TR-1 the folks here know and love. I suspect Garmin, a California corp, will continue to support the existing TR-1 (for 7-years, as required by California law) but will integrate the technology into other Garmin product, as Icom attempted to do when it bought the MicroLogic technology.

Simrad has successfully integrated technology from a smorgasbord of marine electronics companies over the years, but Garmin can’t hold a candle to Simrad’s quality or Simrad’s technical resources.

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I just hope - and I'm pretty sure they will - honor the deal I purchased in 12/06. I still have not arranged for them to install it yet, but I paid for it and also don't have possession of it yet. Not their fault - I have been delayed on other projects. Looks like I will be calling to schedule asap.
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Garmin did not buy just nautamatic..they bought Doug Ford...I watched every AP engineer in the biz come to the TR-1 booth and find Doug, during both the Ft Laud and Miami shows....He's the A-Rod of AP's - so we'll watch and see how he and garmin work it out..who knows? maybe he'll just take the money and retire...he made out well...dunno....
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right now Iam pissed @ Garmin because they have zero customer support!!!!!
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Interesting.
My only experience with Garmin is with handheld GPS's. I have 3.
The only failure I've had was handled quickly and fairly by Garmin.
Let's hope Garmin keeps up the good work.
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Have a very good friend that works for Garmin and lives in Calif. We were talking last night and he said the main reason for the acquisition was so that Garmin could introduce a line of economical auto pilots using TR-1s technology that they deemed to be cost effective. He said using some of the TR-1 tech and making it more affordable will save them big bucks in research and development. I asked him about compatibility and he said plans were for the more moderately priced and designed units to be compatible with both 183 and 2000 which make up the majority of units being sold now. He said that once the redesign and product introduction takes place they project a positive market share and profitability from day one.

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Have a very good friend that works for Garmin and lives in Calif. We were talking last night and he said the main reason for the acquisition was so that Garmin could introduce a line of economical auto pilots using TR-1s technology that they deemed to be cost effective. He said using some of the TR-1 tech and making it more affordable will save them big bucks in research and development. ...
Yeah, that’s pretty much what I would expect them to do; gut the technology they want from the existing AP product and trash the rest. Garmin so wants to be seen as a top tier marine electronics player, it isn’t, and can't be without an AP to compete. The TR-1 technology should bring them closer to that goal.
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Eyeball - 3/28/2007 6:48 PM


I suspect Garmin, a California corp, will continue to support the existing TR-1 (for 7-years, as required by California law)
Garmin is based out of Kansas, not California.
Garmin International, Inc.
1200 E. 151st Street
Olathe, KS 66062-3426 (Kansas City metro area)
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kauzmo - 3/29/2007 3:14 PM

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I suspect Garmin, a California corp, will continue to support the existing TR-1 (for 7-years, as required by California law)
Garmin is based out of Kansas, not California.
Garmin International, Inc.
1200 E. 151st Street
Olathe, KS 66062-3426 (Kansas City metro area)
Actually a subsidiary of an offshore company:

Garmin Ltd.
5th Floor, Harbour Place
103 South Church Street
Grand Cayman,
Phone: (345) 946-5203
Fax: (345) 945-3390

Kind of like all those yachts registered in the Caymans.
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cravenMH - 3/30/2007 1:00 PM

kauzmo - 3/29/2007 3:14 PM

Eyeball - 3/28/2007 6:48 PM


I suspect Garmin, a California corp, will continue to support the existing TR-1 (for 7-years, as required by California law)
Garmin is based out of Kansas, not California.
Garmin International, Inc.
1200 E. 151st Street
Olathe, KS 66062-3426 (Kansas City metro area)
Actually a subsidiary of an offshore company:

Garmin Ltd.
5th Floor, Harbour Place
103 South Church Street
Grand Cayman,
Phone: (345) 946-5203
Fax: (345) 945-3390

Kind of like all those yachts registered in the Caymans.
Dang! I stand corrected on Garmin’s location. For some reason I was thinking Garmin was a California corporation that was founded in the wake of MircoLogic’s failing.



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It's pretty obvious that Garmin intends playing in the "bigger boat" market so an autopilot is an essential part of the package. However this designing a good autopilot is NOT a simple matter so IMO Garmin has taken the best route and purchased the technology from a reputable manufacturer. Of course it will fall within the Garmin culture and (as opposed to TR-1) so I agree with Glen in that prices will come down for newer models. However basic economics comes into play and when you take away price something else needs to give and I'm affraid that's normally service and quality.......let's hope not! R&D takes money.....lots of it! Plotters (GPS) are pretty easy to develop but when a manufacturer starts venturing into sounders, and especially radars and auto pilots then it's a whole different game. Normally companies buy in the technology like Simrad, Navman etc who use JRC or Koden technology.
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Maybe the boys at TR-1 can help them fix their screens.

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