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Old 03-28-2007, 11:44 AM
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Recently I have seen a couple of threads here regarding problems with Furuno radars, I know my cousin had problems with his that was only a couple of years old as well.

Should I look at other brands instead??
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furuno and reliability usually go hand in hand. there is no other brand on the market that is as reliable IMHO.
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Nobody compares to furuno in reliability look what you see on every commercial boat out there.
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I must have missed those threads ;?
Old 03-28-2007, 11:38 PM
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I only live about 10 miles from the Furuno main office. I took my radar screen in for repair ( damage my fault). I do not know anyone that works there and my personal visit was a complete surprise to them. I have never been treated so professionally by any other company in my life. I entered a back door in the shipping/receiving area and even the loading crew greeted me and made sure I was taken to the correct person. Oh by the way, the repair that was my fault was no charge and done in two days. I would have been glad to pay.
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I've had a few additions made to my unit by the US factory repair site out west...very courteous service...their techs know how to handle the public as well as their jobs.

If you look at the charter fleets were I boat, 90% have Furuno radars. What does that tell you? Same with the Coast Guard.
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1621 furuno not picking up ? 1 26 prockvoan 3/29/2007
Furuno 1850 - Depth will not reset 11 168 Nestor 3/27/2007 7:40 AM
Furuno 21X Radar Problems... 2 53 prodigalson 3/27/2007 6:50 AM
Furuno 1621 radar problems.... 7 218 a7ewizard 3/26/2007 11:15 PM
furuno 1833 radar/sounder problems 0 34 bigtuna 3/25/2007 4:04 PM

I did a search for the last month and these were the problems I was referring to, it seems like most of you are pleased with your Furuno's though.

Thanks for your responses..
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Default RE: Furuno reliability

I think you'll find that Furuno is one of the most widely used (if not the most widely used) brands of radar and sonar around, and, given the law of averages and heavy usage, problems may be reported more often as a result. Also, people expect more.

NavNet does take some work to set up, which I believe accounts for most of the difficulties.
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Furuno makes good stuff. I use only their sounders and would recommend their radars as well.
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Default RE: Furuno reliability

Can't go wrong with Furuno.
Not only are they reliable, but just as important, their customer service is second to no one.
I sent them a REALLY old radar (1984) a few years ago that I couldn't seem to make operational. This was a`PPI (the old phosphorus display) type and I sent the display unit (ten pounds!) and the guts of the open array. They checked it out in a few days, even did a tuning adjustment- then sent it back to me at no charge, certifying it was as good as the day it left the factory nearly 20 years earlier. They seemed to like knowing their old "stuff" still worked like it should. Showed targets better than my current radar!

BTW, the fault was mine. These weren't "plug and play" like modern radars, there were a million wires that needed to be made up and turns out I missed a ground jumper.
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bajadan - 3/29/2007 8:38 PM

I only live about 10 miles from the Furuno main office. ...
Furuno’s main facility is in Miki, Japan, in the Hyogo Prefecture. Kobe, the city devastated buy the 1995 earthquake, is the capital of Hyogo. Miki is like a downtown district of Kobe. In the last couple of years Furuno has been moving manf’ing out of Miki and into China. Furuno is considered reliable, as is similar product by Japan Radio Corp (JRC).

Simrad is also considered bulletproof reliable. Don’t know if it is still made in Europe or if it has been farmed out to China manf’ing, too. If it is hasn’t been farmed out, I'm sure it soon will be.

Older Furuno gear is bulletproof reliable, except for their 1st-gen AP. Maybe the problems with Furuno that have recently surfaced are with newer product made in China?!? ;?
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Eyeball, the USA main office for Furuno is in Camas, WA, USA. Is that clear enough for you???...
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bajadan - 3/30/2007 3:43 PM

Eyeball, the USA main office for Furuno is in Camas, WA, USA. Is that clear enough for you???...
Much better. Thanks for asking.

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Eyeball-
There is a big diference in "farming" out manufacturing and opening your own factory.

http://www.furuno.co.jp/en/news/corp...50722_001.html
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cravenMH - 3/30/2007 4:33 PM

Eyeball-
There is a big diference in "farming" out manufacturing and opening your own factory.
I hear what you are saying, and you would think there is, or least there should be. Most (darn near every) Japanese electronics companies have a manufacturing facility in China.

Here’s how it works; a Chinese built facility on Chinese soil with Chinese unskilled labor using Chinese parts and Chinese material to build a product to Japanese design under Japanese management. Quality control is Chinese, too.

Then there are the generic manf’ing plants that tell a Japanese company to just give them direction. This is what National (known to you as Panasonic) does. They tell a huge facility to make X, Y, and Z product and National says it was made at “their” facility in China.

Call it anything you want to call it. Product made is China is most often of a lower quality that product made in, say, Japan. Not always, and doesn’t need to be that way, but everyone, INCLUDING FURUNO, is looking to cut manf’ing costs and increase their profit margin. China has a lot to offer a company operating in that mode.

Given a choice between a Furuno ‘made in China’ and a Simrad ‘made in EU’, it would not be a hard decision for me to make.

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Eyeball-
Your assumptions are certainly general in nature and obviously reflect your opinion without documentation, especially with regards to this original thread. There are many large yachts currently built in China and I’m sure the owners and importers would be surprised to learn how much you claim to know. You stated:

“Here’s how it works; a Chinese built facility on Chinese soil with Chinese unskilled labor using Chinese parts and Chinese material to build a product to Japanese design under Japanese management. Quality control is Chinese, too.”

First of all the labor is not any more “unskilled” then any other country. They are trained to do a job. In fact if it involves math or science they are probably better then most.
Second, they use parts obtained the same way other plants obtain parts, and yes many do come from China. And as far as the QC being Chinese you don’t know what you’re talking about. I know quite a few builders personnel (I know them personally also) who are spending many months at a time supervising work. In fact many marine electronic dealers for large yacht projects routinely send their people over to China to oversee an installation.

If you look at the threads waynesworld dug up you might notice that these products mentioned were manufactured before Furuno came out with their NavNet vx2 which was the first product mention in the Furuno link.


1621 furuno not picking up ? 1 26 prockvoan 3/29/2007
Furuno 1850 - Depth will not reset 11 168 Nestor 3/27/2007 7:40 AM
Furuno 21X Radar Problems... 2 53 prodigalson 3/27/2007 6:50 AM
Furuno 1621 radar problems.... 7 218 a7ewizard 3/26/2007 11:15 PM
furuno 1833 radar/sounder problems 0 34 bigtuna 3/25/2007 4:04 PM

And how many of these problems are owner error? In fact many problems you see on this (and other) forums are owner error versus a manufacturing defect by Furuno, Raymarine, Simrad, or Garmin.
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I'm a Furuno fan. Have the 1850 plotter, 582 FF, 1734 Vx2 radar. It has brought me in when conditions were poor. I depend on Furuno and it has not failed me. If I did have a problem I know that their service department in Camas, WA will repair it. They are a first rate company. If I have to upgrade my electronics you can bet I will go again with Furuno.
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Had the 1620 radar and 18... sounder- both great- navnet 2 now and it is awsome- the navnet radar is clean- the only thing I've found w/ furuno bottom machines is they do not like shallow water no matter how you adjust the machine... could be the the thru hull duecer but I doubt it...
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For what is worth I have a Furuno 1600cf Chart plotter/Sounder and in 11 years it has been bullet proof without a single hick up. I am planning on up grading to the new Furuno 1720 NavNet Chart plotter/Sounder soon and hope I have the same results.

John
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cravenMH - 3/31/2007 11:18 AM

Eyeball-
Your assumptions are certainly general in nature and obviously reflect your opinion without documentation, ...
[blah-blah-blah]
You know nothing of what you speak about; you are a simple idiot that is talking out of his ass.


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