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Bottom line!!! Northstar M84 or Raymarine E80

Old 03-25-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default Bottom line!!! Northstar M84 or Raymarine E80

My main concern is the fish finder and radar capabilities. I am going to order this week, right now I am leaning towards the M84. I only have room for a 8.4 inch screen for the most part. I am looking for some real world input, thanks for your help!!!!!!
Old 03-25-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: Bottom line!!! Northstar M84 or Raymarine E80

The Nstar unit is actually a Navman unit, and Northstar was just bought by Simrad, so I would have concerns about the future compatibilty of the unit. I have no experiance with the M84, but my experiance in recent years with Northstars Radar and Fishfinder would lead me to expect medicore-to-poor performance.

The Eseries units I have nothing but good things to say about, though I do feel that the 'Platium' Charts offer little or no advantage over the 'Gold'. The Radar and Fishfinders are amoung the best performing units out there, the screen is the most daylight veiwable I have seen, and it gets good marks for 'userfriendly' operation.
Old 03-25-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: Bottom line!!! Northstar M84 or Raymarine E80

I am pretty sure anybody would choose the E80 over the M84, but once you consider the cost the M84 starts looking really attractive. The M84 is without a doubt the best value on the market right now. If it has the features you are wanting you can save a couple of grand and go with it. This comparison is not a fair one, the M84 and C80 are a better comparison.
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Default Re: Bottom line!!! Northstar M84 or Raymarine E80

For the price comparison it is a great system. I honestly think the extra money you are getting a better unit with the Ray though. Jusy look at the screen difference on clarity. To me the Northstar looks like old technology.
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Default Re: Bottom line!!! Northstar M84 or Raymarine E80

The M84 display is far from old technology its a 800x600 pixel bonded LCD. The LCD is stuck directly to the glass. Never any fogging issues.
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Default Re: Bottom line!!! Northstar M84 or Raymarine E80

I shouldn't have said old technology, sorry. What I mean is it looks like a toy next to the Raymarine on clarity and definition in sounder and chart.
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Default Re: Bottom line!!! Northstar M84 or Raymarine E80

What type of power do you have? If you have Merc you may want to look harder at the Northstar. I checked out the Northstar units this past weekend. I am impressed. The coolest feature for me is the Smartcraft compatablity...

A couple of features aside from the Smartcraft integration that impressed me with the Northstar are the no need for a separate box for fishfinder capabilities and the ability to split screen the fishfinder while viewing the map at the same time (one of the main complaints about my garmin unit).

The sales person that I was speaking with said that NorthStar has great radar as well.

I have owned neither but the northstar does deserve a good look.

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Default Re: Bottom line!!! Northstar M84 or Raymarine E80

One great feature with the M84 is that you can adjust the screen splits, even the four way ones so you can have a really big chart and three other functions shown alot smaller.
The E series is far brighter in the screen but you pay is $$, size and power consumtion.
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Default Re: Bottom line!!! Northstar M84 or Raymarine E80

Thanx for all your input! I think it comes down to the all mighty buck$$$$ I am going to get the M84, I will let you know how it is........Thanx again!
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Default Re: Bottom line!!! Northstar M84 or Raymarine E80

While I see that the crowd here like Raymarine I might be stepping out on a limb here. While Raymarine has a great marketing program and excellent name recognition, as a marine electronics tech (14 years, mostly retired now), the most common brand of electronics when it comes to radars and chartplotters that I'm called to service seems to be Raymarine. But most of these units are typically at or just over three years old. And when it comes to dealing with warranty issues or repair issues it seems that the company I have the most difficult time with is again, Raymarine. When dealing with tech support, warranty or repair issues Furuno, Simrad Garmin and Northstar are top notch. I have a customer that had a wind speed indicator from Northstar go out, two months after warranty. Northstar, without asking, sent a free replacement. That's quality service.

I guess my point is that when shopping for products it is important to consider cost, but one should not leave out the importance of after purchase support. Some things I occasionally advise my clients to do is to email or call the tech support of the companies they are considering purchasing from and ask a couple questions, you'll be amazed at which companies are easy to deal with and which are not.

A for the topic of this board, I will be purchasing an M84 with 2kw radome for my sailboat this week. I have their Wind, Speed and depth instruments and their 380 autopilot system. Have been very pleased with their products and especially their support. Hope the M84 lives up to my expectations.

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Default Re: Bottom line!!! Northstar M84 or Raymarine E80

I used to love Northstar - the 800 loran, the 941xd gps and the 952. Since then, I have heard they have gone downhill - I have never used one of their multifunction displays, so my comment is strictly by word of mouth.

I do, however, have hands on experience with the E-80 and have nothing bad to say about it. The cartography, sonar and radar are up their with the best that I have used. I loved my old Furuno stuff - but again - no experience with their multi-function displays - just the old stand alone units (radar and fishfinder) They were commercial grade and excellent and the current Raymarine E80 is better - not sure tha it is a fair comparison as they are not the same generation. Technology improves at alarming rates and I am sure that the Furuno Navnet is excellent. When outfitting this boat looked hard at the Northstar 6000i and the Raymarine - The Raymarine was less in price and from what I have heard better in most categories. I am happy with my decision.









However, I would LOVE SmartCraft compatibility!!!

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