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Old 03-25-2007, 02:50 PM
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Looking to set up music in boat. Thinking of just going with amp and speakers, and audio input jack. I notice the Pyle brand amps are listed on one vendors site as "waterproof". Anyone know if they are any good?
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Gringo - 3/25/2007 3:50 PM Looking to set up music in boat. Thinking of just going with amp and speakers, and audio input jack. I notice the Pyle brand amps are listed on one vendors site as "waterproof". Anyone know if they are any good?
There have been a few posts here on Pyle and so far so good - I think Pyle is new to the marine market. You can be sure that a Clarion marine amp will work well and refurbiushed units off ebay carry a warranty. The 2 ch can be had for 100 bucks or so and the 4 for a bit more. I have purchased at least 8 for friends from a place called "Bass Sales" and have had great servuce - email me if you want install directions if you're gonna go the MP3+ amp route. I've done at least 30 of these in the past few years....
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Hi Glen. There's only one half decent FM station down here, so I am thinking of plugging in an Ipod, and skipping the whole tuner thing entirely. Have been running a Whaler with the Clarion system since November, and its overkill. Plus, its too obvious a target. One thing I dont understand yet about using just an amp, how do you control volume if the amp is tucked up under the console? Will the Ipod volume handle that okay?

I think I need four channels.
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Gringo - 3/25/2007 4:10 PM

Hi Glen. There's only one half decent FM station down here, so I am thinking of plugging in an Ipod, and skipping the whole tuner thing entirely. Have been running a Whaler with the Clarion system since November, and its overkill. Plus, its too obvious a target. One thing I dont understand yet about using just an amp, how do you control volume if the amp is tucked up under the console? Will the Ipod volume handle that okay?

I think I need four channels.
yes everything controled by ipod - send me an email ---->glen@veradoclub.com
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I havent been able to send or receive emails for two days now. Local internet provider has somehow blocked Outlook Express, Network Solutions...or something. They wont even be looking into it until tomorrow ( Monday). There is an email in the queue waiting to go out, though.
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this should give you an idea of how simple it is. My email will have pics...

Here’s the install:

Mount a 4 or 2 channel marine amp in the inside of your console and run 4 or 2 speakers in the boat. If you want to go high end, Get the JL amp. If you want to go a bit less, get the Clarion amp and Infinity speakers. But the JL amps are well worth it, you can hear the difference. Or get a Clarion refurbished unit off eBay – search for “Clarion Marine amplifier”. They usually are about $150 for the 4 channel and $100 for the 2 channel. The main amp power wire should run straight to the battery, I suggest you used heavy marine 8 gauge wire – you want to use FUSED, (30A) big gauge wire to run from the amp to the batt. The same size for the negative wire too….The green “turn on” 12V small wire should go to a switch on the dash or if you have a battery switch you can wire it straight to it, which will leave it on all the time that the switch is on. This is not the desirable way, but when the ipod is disconnected or not playing, the amp draws virtually no load from the battery, it is just energized. Your then turn it off when you leave the boat and shut off your battery. I like the dash switch, as it’s a quick mute when for an event happens where you need your wits about you, like a fish strike or docking. But the batt switch is fine if you don’t want another hole in your dash. Remember, amps can drain the battery so either add a battery in parallel or just watch blasting it when you’re anchored. A batt can go down fast using hi-volume and an amp. Contact me if you want a trick way to auto-disconnect the batt if it starts getting too low (Blue Seas in-line battery link ACR). Also, Poly Planar just came out with a neat kit like this – they owe me royalties! It is a small 2 ch amp, all the wires and a pair of not so hot speakers. It’s called the “MP3-KITA”

Apple sells a nice cable that puts a very small hole in your dash for the connection to the ipod. It’s called the “iPod AV” cable and made for the video ipod – you can just hook up the L+R audio jacks, forget the video part to the amp and it’ll work fine….looks like this when you are done – other end is reg jacks that just connect to the head unit like a VCR. Get it off the apple website. Drill the hole so it slides thru perfectly and then slide a piece of heat shrink on it (see black piece in pic below) to keep it from going back thru….when pushed into the hole, it seals it from leaks, too.




There are 2 amps available from Clarion, a 2 channel and 4 channel. That just means either a 2 speakers or 4-speaker system. You will see that the inputs on the amp are the same as the back of your home stereo, Left and Right for 2 speakers, and 4 speakers for L and R but also front and back inputs. These are called RCA jacks. Buy some cables at Radio Shack to go from the headphone jack on the ipod to the “front” RCA male jacks that go to the input on the amp. Set the switch to “2 ch”, if you bought the 4 channel amp. If this seems confusing, take the amp and ipod into Radio Shack, they will know what cables you need. Show them the ipod headphone output and the amp inputs and tell them “I want to go from here to there”…

That’s it –Mount the iPod on your dash. Best case I’ve seen is the “showcase” model @. http://www.contourcase.com If you need a fully waterproof design, ask Mike, he’s got one. Mount with 3M dual Lock…it’s like super Velcro…3M dual lock avail at www.aerostitch.com - part # 2250. There is really no need to run power to the iPod now that the battery lasts 15 hours or so. Simply pull it off the dash at night when you’re thru and charge it at home from a 110 ac outlet. You’re ready to go again the next day.

Set the amp switches for the 2 or 4 speaker configuration in the manual, 75% gain, the bass gain for 20% and then use the iPod volume control. Set the iPod EQ for “off” until you get comfortable with the sound quality.
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Thanks. I am hoping email will be back up tomorrow sometimes. Looking forward to the photos. It all makes sense.
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Here's a nice little kit I have used : http://www.polyplanar.com/pdf/PP_Cat...7_11_27_06.pdf (pg 4, bottom of the page) . it includes a tiny water resistant marine grade 50w amp, two speakers, a little volume knob, and a 1/8 stereo jackport with a patch cord. everything you need in a small package from a good company.
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Here's a nice little kit I have used : http://www.polyplanar.com/pdf/PP_Cat...7_11_27_06.pdf (pg 4, bottom of the page) . it includes a tiny water resistant marine grade 50w amp, two speakers, a little volume knob, and a 1/8 stereo jackport with a patch cord. everything you need in a small package from a good company.
written about above....

Also, Poly Planar just came out with a neat kit like this – they owe me royalties! It is a small 2 ch amp, all the wires It’s called the “MP3-KITA”


but the 2 ch is the limiting factor and with 50 watts it's only good for smaller applications...I'd really like to see a 120 watt 4 ch amp plus their better speakers in a kit.
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Yep- that's the one. It really is a nice little amp, too- about 1/2 the size of a thick paperback, and good silicone gaskets, powercoated housing, conformal coated boards. I added an extra pair of box speakers to our showroom display (Little MA800's) and it makes good volume, very good sound driving the four speakers off an MP3 player.
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Nice that its in a package, but do you think 2 speakers is enough? Probably is, on a 22 ft. CC. So, is 50W enough?

Whoops, I see you already edited with same concerns.
Next question,
Where is best place for the speakers, down low on the console facing outwards but lower than the gunwales? or up in the T-top facing aft?
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My standard CC set up would be 2 out in the linersides at or just aft of the console (most boats already have access for the fuel fill right around there, at least on one side), and two boxes (like the MA800s) mounted under the gunnel, as far aft as I can get them, but I seem to come up with a different answer on every boat I rig.
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Gringo - 3/25/2007 5:50 PM

Nice that its in a package, but do you think 2 speakers is enough? Probably is, on a 22 ft. CC. So, is 50W enough?

Whoops, I see you already edited with same concerns.
Next question,
Where is best place for the speakers, down low on the console facing outwards but lower than the gunwales? or up in the T-top facing aft?
On a CC here's where the main speakers go, either in the console (EZ), or in the gunnel (better sound):

belive it or not, put the 2nd set in the transom area for fill....
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well, sides of the console are pretty easy. Not sure about the transom though. Two hatches there, one with tackle trays, the other dual batts.
What do you think?:

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something like this:

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That looks do-able, but I dont really know whats under that livewell right in front of the motor. I HOPE to have access to the boat tomorrow. Never seen it.
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I am going to get a pyle 4 channel they are like $100 and I hear that they are good. New to marine but have made great car amps so I figured I would give it a shot.
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After reading Glen's posts, I am thinking I need to get a 4 channel with more power. A shame it doesnt come as a kit, because I cant just order parts from several different vendors via Fed Ex. Three different vendors would cost me $ 300 in Fed Ex bills...!!

I need to make up a list of wire, cables, connectors, etc. Find one vendor who stocks it all, and who will ship Fed Ex international. Amazing how many companies dont. Hewlett-Packard, for one. (When you get the little list on the order form that has a box to check what state you are in....try leaving it blank...everything comes to a stop..)

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