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Old 12-05-2003, 07:32 PM
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hello everyone,

this is my first post to this board. i'm a west coaster (san diego) & i love fishing & boating...surfing too...enough said.

i'm looking to purchase radar for my 21' striper. not looking to spend over $1500 for the whole setup minus the radar tower. i'm looking @ the jrc 1500 mkII. does anybody have any advise or suggestions? thank you in advance.

i hope you're not getting socked too bad with the storm...it's 68 and sunny here.

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Old 12-06-2003, 07:44 AM
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Was the 68 degree comment necessary it is snowing here (Maryland). I just went through this. From what I see the choices are Furuno 1712, RayMarine sl72 and the JRC. I ended up with the Raymarine SL72 based on what I read on this board. Do a couple of searches There is a lot of info here. From what I read they are all good for the money - but I have to wait until it stops snowing to install mine - but it looks real nice in the box!
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Old 12-06-2003, 08:03 AM
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Sharkstew,
Welcome to the board. I am also evaluating entry-level radar and have similar questions. I did see an electronics column in October's Boating magazine titled "Golden Oldies -10 electronics that prove newer isn't always better".

With regard to radar, they said "Although radars don't change each season, models usually get udated every few years. But the popular Raymarine SL72($1,980) has a successful six-year record due to its simple reliability."

I'm struggling with buying an affordable stand alone unit, or going with an integrated system where the radar image will overlay the chartplotter. Problem is I have big bucks sunk in the Garmin 238 GPSMAP with sonar. I would like to hear opinions on stand alone units vs. integrated systems. I too have a Striper (2101 DC) and would be curious as to how you plan to mount the radar dome.
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Old 12-06-2003, 08:24 AM
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You can buy the SL72 for about $1350 - I paid 1499.00 - 10% (BoatUS membership discount) at West Marine.

I have separate GPS and FF units Garmin 182 and Garmin 160 Blue - I like the separate units just so it is easy to see everything at once. The GPS will talk to the radar so at least you can see your waypoint the the radar screen. Also if one unit goes on the blink you dont lose everything - but like everything there are trade-offs and everyone has their own preference

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Old 12-06-2003, 09:53 AM
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I put the SL72 on last Spring. Here in the Pac NW we get a lot of fog so its used quite a bit. Works great with no problems. Got the West Marine deal.

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Old 12-06-2003, 11:27 AM
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I bought the Furuno 1623 for my 25' C-Hawk. I like the unit a lot and rarely run without it. It's user freindly and performs relatively well for 2.2 kw.
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Old 12-06-2003, 12:16 PM
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Well seams as though no one really likes your choice so far. But I would highly recomend it.

A recent test showed that the entry level JRC radars beat both Furuno and Raymarine.

The specs are good, the only draw back to the JRC stuff is that they are a little more power hungry. But they are solid units IMO.
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Old 12-06-2003, 01:17 PM
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What tests are you referring to. I know powerboat reports reviewed them a while ago, but I haven't gotten that publication is a while.
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:24 PM
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Yes thats the one.
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Old 12-06-2003, 03:43 PM
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That's not how I read the comparison (October or 2001 wasn't it?).

The PBR comparison came up with one of the build-it-yourself compilations from Raytheon as the first choice, the SL-72 as a stand alone unit came in second. At the time of the article the Furuno 1712 had not been released yet, but would be in a month. What they said about the JRC was that its extremely low price made it the best deal, not that it was the best Radar. At that time, as I recall, you could buy the Raythone for about $1,800, the Furuno 1621 was going for about $1,500 and you could get the JRC for around $1,200. The prices of all of them have since come down considerably but the spread is still about the same with the exception of the comparable Furuno now being the 1712 and it costing within $30 of the Raytheon at most places.

Oh, in that comparison the Furuno's 2 kW unit in production at the time (what was it, the 1612 or something?) came out very close to the bottom, sharing space along with one by SciTex and someone else I don't remember.

That was about the time I bought mine and I paid an awful lot of attention to the article when making myselection. Then just as I had decided Furuno came out with the 1712. To the best of my knowledge it has never been directly compared to the Raytheon, but then within a couple of months of the release of the 1712 Raytheon was sold out to become RayMarine and then either made some changes or not but they renamed the SL-72 to the SL-72 Plus or somesuch. At any rate in terms of the specifications there is no real difference between the SL-72 and the 1712. I think the SL-72 is easier to use and there are some slight differences in menu setup that probably wouldn't matter to a soul on earth that are different too. I chose the SL-72 and it has worked flawlessly ever since.

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Old 12-06-2003, 09:58 PM
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Zinger,

I plan to have a radar arch w/rocket launchers installed. It's just as expenspensive as the radar but you have to have it.

Thank you all for the replys...I'm much more confused now. I could have used radar today. Didn't see land till noon. Followed out my buddy with Radar...150' of vis. The sea lions made fools of us today.

Please feel free to post anymore radar info...i'm hungry.

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Old 12-07-2003, 07:23 AM
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sharkstew...welcome aboard. This is a great board without those 68 degree comments. Go to the header above and hit 'FIND'; type in radar. You'll get more info than you want. As I recall there was some issues on the JRC unit as to megatron noise when it's turning. I personally have the Raytheon unit (SL-70) for the last seven years...great unit. We've had a Raytheon radar on our other boat for 18 years. I would stick with Raytheon or Furuno...a couple bucks more. Some on the board have had good experience with the JCR, however.

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Old 12-07-2003, 11:35 AM
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Furuno 1623 2.2kW Radar
Price: $ 1129.95

http://www.pyacht.net/cgi-local/Soft...142+pr+fur1623

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Old 12-08-2003, 11:14 PM
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Go with Furuno. I should know because I have a Raytheon SL70 and it is junk. Actually, it is pretty good when it works which is not very often. Raytheon(Raymarine) has been useless and is the worst customer service I have gotten from any of my electronics manufacturer's. Can't wait for the next boat when I can load it with Furuno equipment.

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Old 12-09-2003, 11:39 AM
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quote:Originally posted by JAGSARE1:
Go with Furuno. I should know because I have a Raytheon SL70 and it is junk. Actually, it is pretty good when it works which is not very often. Raytheon(Raymarine) has been useless and is the worst customer service I have gotten from any of my electronics manufacturer's.

To the contrary, I find Raymarines Tech support incredably helpful. The only advice is, don't Email them, call.

Lastly, I would not install any radar other than Raymarines.

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Old 12-16-2003, 10:51 PM
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I'm also trying to make a radar choice. I'm leaning towards the JRC. I persoanlly prefer the green screen. I just seem to be able to note more details on that green screen. But then, they have done away with the green screen and replaced it with the silver/black. I think it was due to readability in sunlight. But I'm thinking when I need the radar, it's not going to be in bright sunlight. Dark or fog or rain sounds more like it. Anyone else with experience with the green screen JRC's care to comment?

JRC is by far the best deal out there on radars right now. And it sounds as if the three units (Furuno/JRC/Raymarine) are pretty close as to performance.

My only concern is all of my other electronics are Furuno. Kind of hate to put any other brand on the boat!

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Old 12-17-2003, 09:41 AM
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Sharkstew,

I have an Raymarine SL72 w/48nm radome. The unit works great here in Southern California, especially on those foggy days going to San Clemente or Catalina islands. Either Raymarine or Furuno are good choices. I went with the 4 kw/48 nm radome as I felt better with the greater detail it supplies. If you can afford it, go with a color LCD and make sure that whomever installs it that they sync with your GPS. The person who installed mine connected it to my GPS (SiTex unit) and it works great showing my destination on the radar screen.

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Old 12-21-2003, 09:55 AM
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I have a sl72 on my boat , and i really like this unit. Easy to use and big screen. Doug.
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Old 12-21-2003, 10:19 AM
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" . . big screen." Doug you must have a real small boat as the SL72 with its 7 inch screen is the smallest radar Raytheon makes.
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