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Old 02-03-2007, 08:50 PM
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Hi guys, so I've found myself in a situation that I'm having a hard time figuring out. I just bought a new Sailfish 2660 W/A (mostly for fishing off NE coast, offshore incl.) and I'm taking delivery April 1st. So, I've been shopping for electronics and things got tricky. First, I've decided on a single multi function display of between 8" and 12" diamter given the available helm space. I also plan on buying a 4kW open array radar. So, originally I planned on picking up the new Garmin 4212 bundle w/ radar. But today I was talking to the Garmin rep at the booth in AC and he told me that they planned on delivering the software to the plant on April 15th. Then he told me he also expected it to be a week late. So, now I figure that if the software gets written to the hardware on the 15th, I'm not going to see a unit until at least mid-may w/ the bundle not available until probably late June. So, I've narrowed down my situation to below and would appreciate any input. I've done a lot of research over the winter and I mostly know the differences between the units. The two factors that stand out most to me are sounder quality (Raymarine better than Garmin) and being unable to overlay satellite weather on the chart w/ the Ray, but you can with the Garmin.

Option 1: Buy the 3210 bundle at a significant discount, save myself some cash but deal with the smaller screen, lack of dual freq. sounder display, and a poorer quality sounder. Biggest benefit is serious money savings.

Option 2: Pony up the extra cash (I'm figuring at least 2K above the cost of the new Garmin unit, even more above cost of 4K above older Garmin) and buy an C or E 120 package. I'm having a hard time rationalize spending this extra money for really a slightly larger screen and a better sounder. And by some opinions, a poorer chartplotter.

Option 3: Spend the first few months w/o any electronics (well, a radio) and wait out the Garmin release. I figure this would mean my fishing would be limited to trolling and drifting wide areas (not terrible) and would severely limit my range (no point in going anywhere if I can't find it). However, I could use the extra time to really become comfortable with the boat cruising. And I could always use my father's boat for fishing.

Option 4: Any other ideas greatly appreciated..

So, no, I'm not asking anyone to make a decision for me. I just want some input from some more experienced boaters than I. Thanks in advance and tight lines.

Steve
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Let me also throw in a Furuno Navnet system. Furuno has a great FF and radar, and is worth every penny.
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I have 2006 garmin chartplotter with FF and raymarine C120 chartplotter with FF and radar. Use garmin for GPS with FF as backup. Use raymarine for FF and radar and backup GPS. Cost of both systems less then one bundle. Do not like raymarine for GPS and do not like garmin for FF but good for backup.
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Why do you think the new Garmin units will have a better sounder than the existing 3210? Both use the GSD-22 so performance is identical. Why not get a 3210 bundle now w/4kw array, then if/when you feel like display is too small, pull it out, sell it, and stick a 4212 in the same hole (slightly enlarged) while using all the same periphials? Since you are buying the 3210 in the bundle you will probably not be out a dime at the end of the day after the upgrade.
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yachtjim - 2/3/2007 11:19 PM

Why do you think the new Garmin units will have a better sounder than the existing 3210? Both use the GSD-22 so performance is identical. Why not get a 3210 bundle now w/4kw array, then if/when you feel like display is too small, pull it out, sell it, and stick a 4212 in the same hole (slightly enlarged) while using all the same periphials? Since you are buying the 3210 in the bundle you will probably not be out a dime at the end of the day after the upgrade.
Listen to Jim - this is a master plan - Jim - do we have a template for the 4212 - how much bigger is the hole?
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Jim, I didn't mean to imply the 4212 would have better sounder performance. I meant that Raymarine has a better sounder. Your plan is awesome though. I think I'm going to go that route. Thanks!
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Another option would be to get a Garmin 376C as a handheld, and you can use it as a backup and take it with you where ever you want.
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Another option is to go with a Si-tex 11" chartplotter, add the fishfinder black box, and the 4KW open array radar, all overlaid.
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That console is huge. Take advantage of it. I don't want to hear any talk of an 8" display

I would either install 2 displays (10" min) now or definitely leave room for a second

I REALLY like having Chart/Radar on one & FF on the other. It also gives you some redundancy in case of a display failure



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