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Old 11-29-2003, 12:23 PM
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I am seeking pro/con comments on my electronics selection for a new Hydra-Sports 2800wa. I will be fishing in cemtral jersey (bay & coastal). This is a complete list of what I am looking to buy. Am I missing any should have items? I've done my research, but this is my first real boat; I'd appreciate benefitting from your collective experience.

GPS/Chartplotter - Garmin GPSMap 2010 (color); thru hull transducer
Radar - Furuno 1731MK3
VHF - Standard Horizon Intrepid Plus

I plan to have my boat dealer install the elecrtonics, as long as I get a good price.

Thanks for your help.

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Old 11-29-2003, 06:45 PM
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Nice.........Not familiar with the vhf but I don't think you will have too many negative comments on anything. Garmin is having problems wiht their proctive screens. I have the 2006C and had the same problem but still very satisfied with the unit.
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Old 11-29-2003, 07:10 PM
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Good Luck with your boat. Try experimenting with different electronics before you purchase. You said your from central Jersey, go to Consumers Marine in Wall. They will give excellent advice. My Regulator 26 is outfitted with following:
Furuno 1832 Radar
Furuno 582l fishfinder
Northstar 6000i Chartplotter
Standard Horizon Spectrum VHF

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Old 11-29-2003, 07:16 PM
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Hey njmike,

I'm rigging a 2400cc right now as well and have looked at a ton of options. I had a Garmin 182c and figured I'd go with the 2010 or the 2006 on this boat. Problem was I wanted Furuno radar and their options are limited without NavNet. After more research I ended up with this for a total package.

Furuno 1833c Radar/Plotter $4350

Raymarine DSC VHF (std equip)

Furuno 582L Sounder w/ though hull Airmar $1000 + sender

Furno GP32 GPS/Info screen $300 (provides backup navigation and the ability to show nav data w/o taking up space on the plotter screen

ACR Rapidfix Epirb $550 (must have offshore)

KVH Azmiuth 1000 Digital compass $245 (Provides heading data to the 1833c for radar overlay)

I charter this boat and need the redundancy, but IMHO the all in one Furuno may be a better way to go than the Garmin / Furuno CRT setup. I like Garmin, but the NavNet stuff really seems to be a great expandable setup. If the $ is too high I'd look to the 7" Color Nav Net units and get the GP32 to show the data, allowing the 7" screen to be used strickly for chart and radar. Good Luck with the new rig.

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Old 11-30-2003, 05:34 AM
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I'm partial to ICOM for the VHF www.icomamerica.com . Bullit proof units. I also agree with the idea of contacting www.consumersmarine.com very knolegeable people. The sell it all, 'no axe to grind' one product Vs another. I would also look at a good searchlight, www.ACRelectronics.com I have the RCL-100. As an aside, my boat came with a Raytheon RAY 210 VHF; it has a speaker in the mike, so you can talk and listen when running with out a remote speaker (the speaker on the VHF works at the same time also). Neat feature. Go with a Digital antenna www.digitalantenna.com . What the heck...get a Sirus FM sat radio for tunes! Also be sure all wires a run inside tubes to the top, if you get a top. Try to get you electronics at near discount price and have dealer install on an hourly rate...with a ballpark estimate. Great installations take time.

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Old 11-30-2003, 07:08 AM
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I purchased a new 2004 hs 2800 wa also will be delivered early spring. Do you have room for the 10 inch garmin screen in the electronics section? I will probably go with 2 -7" raymarine units combo gps mapcharter /radar and the other screen for a fishfinder with the 250 sounder. I will also get the compass heading for radar overlay. Are you also sure you won't have a problem going thru hull with a transducer on that boat? I will be keeping my boat in the Shrewsbury River.
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Old 11-30-2003, 07:28 AM
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Mike,

I think you've got some mighty good suggestions here so far. I think the only absolute I'd start with is that I wanted to use an ICOM radio and hook it up to a suitable antenna by Digital Antenna. Pick the model you prefer but I'd just get the M602 myself.

There is one thing that jumped out at me. You didn't list an auto pilot. I would buy an Auto Pilot before I'd buy a Radar. Think Simrad.

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Ditto on Thom's comment. Don't overlook Autopilot. While I may have a better opinion of radar after I get use to it, I loved autopilot right "out of the box". When you are going to a fishing hole, and just punch that autopilot and lean back and watch it go...it's hard to beat! I've got the Simrad AP11 with Furuno 1833 Radar/Sounder/Plotter. Ditto Digital Antennas and Consumer Marine.
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Old 12-01-2003, 08:21 PM
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Mike,

This year I had the Garmin GPSMap 2010 (color)w/ thru hull transducer and
Standard Horizon Intrepid Plus installed in my 27 Shamrock Pilot House. The electronics were recommended by and purchased at Consumers Marine.

They were professionally installed and I am very pleased with the equipment. Since I have a Pilot House style boat, I also had the Ram Mic installed in the cockpit. For what it's worth, the installer who had no ties to any of these manufacturers told me he has become dissatisfied with Icom after installing many of them.
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Old 12-06-2003, 09:27 AM
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Mike, I recently got a Garmin 2010C GPS, Furuno 1732 CNT 4 kw radar with the Furuno black box and sounder, ICOM402S VHF. Have been pleased so far. Added the sounder to the radar because it allowed transducer to go to 600W where garmin transducer maxes at 500W for that unit. Not sure how much difference that really makes. If you go with this set-up you will have your combined unit on the smaller screen. No problems so far and I can't say enough about the 2010C. With the blue chart chip it has so much detail. Makes you feel very confident running in fog or darkness when you can see channel markers/buoys on your GPS and confirm them with your radar.--Blain

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Old 12-06-2003, 11:34 AM
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Thanks for all the great input. I am close Comsumer Marine and will head down there. I will also check out the ICOM M502. Happyfisherman, I will recheck my measurements (BIG THANKS); I called Hydra-Sports and they told me the helm box was 25 inches wide, but now I understand that some of that space is taken up by some switches. I really want to have a 10" Chartplotter. I will be keeping my boat in the Forked River.
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Old 12-08-2003, 06:20 AM
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There is room for 7 inch display only in my hs helm box. I wanted the 10 inch also. Hs is coming out with a 33 foot express version and I'm sure 10 inchers would fit in that model but not ours.
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NJMIKE .... have a glance at this
http://thehulltruth.com/6/ubb.x?q=Y&...6836030594&p=1
... Some very good info !!! Nothing else it's food for thought!!!!John


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Old 12-09-2003, 07:58 AM
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You have to look at the height of the helm box and remember that it has a door that protects it which closes from the top. The width is not the problem. Look at page 13 of the hydra-sport 2004 brochure.
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Old 12-09-2003, 05:39 PM
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Hi Happyfisherman, I called Hydra-Sports. They say the helm box is 9 1/4 height by 24 3/4 with. The Garmin 2010c is 8.8 height by 13.1 with. It is tight height-wise, but should fit. The Furuno 1731 is 9.1 x 9.1. Tight. I am going to the boat on Saturday to double check.
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Ditto the autopilot. You will use it more than anything else on the boat. I am 1 season into a Simrad AP14 on a 23 Parker pilothouse and very pleased. Tex

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I went to my boat dealer and consumer marine today. It is still not clear if the Garmin 2010c will fit. The measurements work (by a 1/4 inch), but the boat dealer is checking with his electronics installer; it is very close.

But, to my surprise, both are advising me to use a transom mounted tansducer instead of thru the hull. They say boats with outboard engines should use transom mounted transducers. Does this make sense? I thought thru the hull was the better way to go. I checked with Hydra-Sports and they say thru the hull will not void my warranty. I'd apprecciate comments.

Finally, and this is specific to Hydra-Sports 2800WA, the boat dealer is telling me that I need to install a stainless steel pipe from the electronics box (under the hardtop) down to the helm to run the electronics wires. He says we can not run the wires thru the hardtop pipes. Does this make sense?

Thanks a lot to everyone that is commenting and helping me out.
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I would definitely say thru hulls are the best and my boat and many others have wires routed through the t-top frame..not sure what the dealer is thinking??
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He was thinking that running the wires and drilling the hole in the hull would be a pain in the butt for him :-)

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If you looked at my 1st post to you I asked are you sure you won't have a problem with through hull. The HS has a huge gas tank and accessibility may be a problem. Another owner I know has transom mount and it is acceptable and he does catch alot of fish. There is a sharp bend in the piping so it is real hard to bend alot of wires through I will research your problem further. Both scenerios are very troublesome to the installer. I'm sure both can be done with alot of effort. The sharp bend is right after the electonics box before it works its way down and there are alot wires there already I think.
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