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Old 12-12-2019, 03:12 PM
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Default Simrad Navico WM-4 Weather Module

It appears the WM3 is bearing clearanced out and the WM4 is about to be released. Part number 000-14970-001

Below is a listing for it, but not available until 3/6/2020 which is odd, because the WM3 is becoming scarce. The hardware is identical to the infoLink units used by Furuno and Raymarine, made by SiriusXM. I wonder if the software is any different?

Also, will this be supported by discontinued units? I'm about to install some Lowrance Carbon units and need to know if I need to track down a WM-3, since my WM-2 is incompatible.

https://www.gps4us.com/SIMRAD-Navico...hoCLUwQAvD_BwE

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I have been counting down the days for the wm-4, I hate the sound quality of the wm-3. they claim it is fixed on the wm-4 since its now a direct connect into the fusion head unit.
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Old 12-18-2019, 06:43 PM
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I have a WM-3 and splitter unit listed for sale. It is used but works fine.

i will make you a good deal on it if you are content to use the WM-3
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I just found this thread after making another one today! Since the WM-4 will connect direct to Fusion, does that mean all the meta data and channel changing will be done through Fusion or on the MFD like the WM-3? I hope they have it both ways! This WM-3 is terrible!!
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I hope this still interfaces with the Sonichub. I donít see any RCA connectors on the box, only what looks like NEMA connectors and SiriusXM antenna connector. Perhaps one of the of the NEMA looking connectors has a pigtail that outputs RCA.


edit...found a higher res pic of the box.



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Th3umbra, the hardware is the same for Furuno and Raymarine. Iím sure their literature will show if one of the cables includes RCA.
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Originally Posted by Vantaredoc View Post
I just found this thread after making another one today! Since the WM-4 will connect direct to Fusion, does that mean all the meta data and channel changing will be done through Fusion or on the MFD like the WM-3? I hope they have it both ways! This WM-3 is terrible!!
From what I can tell looking at the Furuno and Raymarine versions, there is no direct connection to a head unit, besides through RCAs. This tells me the operation will likely be the same as the WM3.

If youíre wanting to control XM through the Fusion head unit, just purchase a cheap XM tuner and Shakespeare SR50 antenna. Have XM move the audio signal over to the new tuner and keep weather on the WM3. About $150 total (without installation).
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Originally Posted by davidwademarine View Post
From what I can tell looking at the Furuno and Raymarine versions, there is no direct connection to a head unit, besides through RCAs. This tells me the operation will likely be the same as the WM3.

If you’re wanting to control XM through the Fusion head unit, just purchase a cheap XM tuner and Shakespeare SR50 antenna. Have XM move the audio signal over to the new tuner and keep weather on the WM3. About $150 total (without installation).
I bought those and tried that route a few months ago. It had better sound quality but I like to see the channel categories on the MFD better. I'm surprised they don't have the din plug from the module to the HU like all the new aftermarket automotive HU's. It would be nothing for them to split that and allow the metadata to show up on the MFD and HU at the same time since it is on the Ethernet network. When I had it direct to the Fusion, the RA770, it had a bug that was weird changing channels. I think this latest Fusion update fixed that. They are very close to having a "proper" system, yet, so far away...IMHO I like listening to XM when I'm out of cell range.


We we can at least hope the WM 4 lasts longer than a WM 3! I'm sick of buying them and having to pull the cable through the TTop piping that is full! I'm only going to install it once and if it fails to hell with it!
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Originally Posted by davidwademarine View Post
From what I can tell looking at the Furuno and Raymarine versions, there is no direct connection to a head unit, besides through RCAs. This tells me the operation will likely be the same as the WM3.

If youíre wanting to control XM through the Fusion head unit, just purchase a cheap XM tuner and Shakespeare SR50 antenna. Have XM move the audio signal over to the new tuner and keep weather on the WM3. About $150 total (without installation).
this is what I did. weather is nice but itís very expensive.... sound quality is night and day vs using the WM3

i have the head unit, a wired remote, and a wireless one to change channels.
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Originally Posted by sammythetuna View Post
this is what I did. weather is nice but itís very expensive.... sound quality is night and day vs using the WM3

i have the head unit, a wired remote, and a wireless one to change channels.
I did this too. When I was setting mine up, there was a question of whether going through the wm-3 etc would allow use of the latest SiriusXM features such as album art, notifications, pausing and rewinding, and notification when a favorite song comes on. Those features were available using the fusion Apollo 770 and a separate cheaper tuner and antenna. But, it does require you to have two SiriusXM accounts, one for weather and one for music. I canít remember if the monthly subscription is more expensive that way.
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Originally Posted by Vantaredoc View Post
We we can at least hope the WM 4 lasts longer than a WM 3! I'm sick of buying them and having to pull the cable through the TTop piping that is full! I'm only going to install it once and if it fails to hell with it!
my WM-3 was a piece of crap, and I just had to cut the cable to get it out of the tower to RMA it. I can only hope they send me the 4 as a replacement. At least they recognized their flaw of having the cable hard-wired to the unit. If they send me a new 3, I'll be selling it real cheap.
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Here's some ground truth information in regards to the new Sirius/XM Weather modules. It is my theory that everyone witt he exception of Garmin is using the stock InfoLink equipment (branded with the vendors name on it) to deliver marine weather to their equiment.

Thanks to Ben Ellison on Panbo for this info.

Sirius/XM InfoLink

Tom

Here's what comes in the box ....

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That's what comes in the Furuno box. The Navico will include at least a different ethernet cable.
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Is there a release date for this?
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Originally Posted by jwmd2010 View Post
Is there a release date for this?
It depends on which tier 2 technician you speak to! So far, this is where I am...I "x'ed" out case number for obvious reasons...


"This email is automatically generated and is to advise you that we have received your RMA item into our warehouse, and have begun processing the transaction as follows:

Case Number: xxxxxxxx
Case Title: WM3
Item received: WM-3 SIRIUS SAT WEATHER & RADIO MODULE
Date received: 2/26/2020 5:55 PM

NOTES:
1) If you have returned multiple items for this case then you will get an email for each item as we receive it.
2) If we are shipping you a replacement item you will receive a separate email when it is shipped from our warehouse.


Thank you

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But thatís for the WM-3. When does the WM-4 get released. Some places already have it on their websites.
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Originally Posted by jwmd2010 View Post
But thatís for the WM-3. When does the WM-4 get released. Some places already have it on their websites.
The warranty replacement will be a WM-4.
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any idea if this can be wirelessly Bluetoothed?...I have the small Fusion Apollo SRX 400 and there is no RCA inputs but it does wifi and bluetooth ?..I also have an Fusion AMP that looks like it might have extra RCA inputs can I take it directly to that?
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Looks like release date from mid April to early June is what I was just told! WTF is the problem! I'm going to shop around to see what Garmin and Furuno's new electronics look like. I might have a whole lot of Simrad stuff for sale soon, this is total BS! I have spent a lot of time on the phone with Sirius trying to speak to someone to suspend the service and still haven't got there yet
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Iím also waiting on it. I have heard 2 weeks

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