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Old 11-10-2019, 05:27 PM
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In the market for a Chartplotter/sonar combo. Looking for a 7” screen. I know recommendations are subjective to who owns what and brand loyal, but I’m not really all that familiar with the package deals out there. I own a 23’ cc. I fish off the New Jersey coast and do everything from bottom fishing/wreck fishing to trolling. I’m familiar with navtronics and would like that on the new plotter. Also looking for a solid transducer to provide all the newer scanning technologies. Would like to spend less than $1000. Thanks for all recommendations!
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A unit to look at is the GO9XSR and the 3 in 1 ducer...
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Currently run Lowrance, Simrad and Garmin on board, had Humminbird as well up to last year. They all do what they should. If I where to pick a mid-range model it would be the Simrad GO xse/xsr. BTW, all brands can now use Navionics, it`s just that for Garmin "Navionics" is not called Navionics but Garmin G3.

As for your sonar, the mid-range models typically come with "all in one" transducers, for Simrad GO that would be the Active Imagaing 3 in 1. It does well for its intended depths, but is by no means ideal when looking for wrecks in deeper water than 30-ish meters (90 or so feet).
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Originally Posted by primo85 View Post
In the market for a Chartplotter/sonar combo. Looking for a 7” screen. I know recommendations are subjective to who owns what and brand loyal, but I’m not really all that familiar with the package deals out there. I own a 23’ cc. I fish off the New Jersey coast and do everything from bottom fishing/wreck fishing to trolling. I’m familiar with navtronics and would like that on the new plotter. Also looking for a solid transducer to provide all the newer scanning technologies. Would like to spend less than $1000. Thanks for all recommendations!
The Garmin ECHOMAP UHD 74sv US Offshore g3 w/GT54UHD-TM Transducer would be my suggestion for you.
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I see the new uhd transducers. Would they be much better than say a gt51m-tm ? Any real improvements ?
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The GT51 while a higher power on the traditional side is not a UHD transducer on the down imaging and side imaging.
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[QUOTE=Team Colibri;13095943]Currently run Lowrance, Simrad and Garmin on board, had Humminbird as well up to last year. They all do what they should. If I where to pick a mid-range model it would be the Simrad GO xse/xsr. BTW, all brands can now use Navionics, it`s just that for Garmin "Navionics" is not called Navionics but Garmin G3.

As for your sonar, the mid-range models typically come with "all in one" transducers, for Simrad GO that would be the Active Imagaing 3 in 1. It does well for its intended depths, but is by no means ideal when looking for wrecks in deeper water than 30-ish meters

I do plan on fishing wrecks up to 150’ of water. The Simrad transducer wouldn’t be capable of that?
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Anyone have any experience with Raymarine Axiom 7? Saw a decent price for that unit with their RealVision 3D transducer.
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Also, do I need a “module” for any of these devices? Not really sure him what it’s use is, but I see them on other boats.
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Currently run Lowrance, Simrad and Garmin on board, had Humminbird as well up to last year. They all do what they should. If I where to pick a mid-range model it would be the Simrad GO xse/xsr. BTW, all brands can now use Navionics, it`s just that for Garmin "Navionics" is not called Navionics but Garmin G3.

As for your sonar, the mid-range models typically come with "all in one" transducers, for Simrad GO that would be the Active Imagaing 3 in 1. It does well for its intended depths, but is by no means ideal when looking for wrecks in deeper water than 30-ish meters

I do plan on fishing wrecks up to 150’ of water. The Simrad transducer wouldn’t be capable of that?
Coneangle is the key when looking for wrecks (or other structure). Take a look here for a practical example:

All transducers discussed in this thread (so far) are much better at looking for pelagic targets then they are for finding wrecks.
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any recommendations on a transducer that can do it all?
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Originally Posted by primo85 View Post
any recommendations on a transducer that can do it all?
No.
This is one of the things that sets the midle-range units apart from the top end. Units like HDS Live can use two (2D) transducers, and then have SideScan/ DownScan through a module (like StructureScan 3D) so you can run it all at the same time.

With units like Simrad GO you could combine a 3 in 1 with an Airmar P66 and physically change between them depending on what you are aiming at.

I see now that my link to Instagram is not shown. Sorry about that, seems the forum will not allow it.
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Last year, I bought a Garmin EchoMap PLus 94sv with Wfi and

CV51M-TM Transducer and G2 Coastal Charts

Down Imaging
Side Imaging
CHIRP Sonar
Temperature
Multi Frequency

for $700
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Originally Posted by Team Colibri View Post


No.
This is one of the things that sets the midle-range units apart from the top end. Units like HDS Live can use two (2D) transducers, and then have SideScan/ DownScan through a module (like StructureScan 3D) so you can run it all at the same time.

With units like Simrad GO you could combine a 3 in 1 with an Airmar P66 and physically change between them depending on what you are aiming at.

I see now that my link to Instagram is not shown. Sorry about that, seems the forum will not allow it.
would I need a module to run both transducers? Or is it something that I could just plug both into the back of the unit? I really appreciate your feed back.
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would I need a module to run both transducers? Or is it something that I could just plug both into the back of the unit? I really appreciate your feed back.
With units like Lowrance HDS Live and Simrad NSS Evo3, no you would not need a module to use two separate 2D-transducers. If one of those is the Active Imaging 3 in 1 you will not need a module at all, as sidescan/ downscan as well as 2D (with the wide coneangle) will come from the 3 in 1 and the other 2D-transducer (like Airmar P66, B75H, TM185H or Lowrance HST-DFSBL) goes to the other port on the MFD (MFD - multi function display, as in the HDS or NSS).

With mid-range units like Simrad GO, this will not be possible, and you will physically have to turn the unit off and plug/ unplug the transducer you wish to use at any given time.
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All of this has been really informative but I really don’t know what I should get now. Seems like a lot of people use the Simrad.
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Originally Posted by primo85 View Post
All of this has been really informative but I really don’t know what I should get now. Seems like a lot of people use the Simrad.
You will find that the Simrad GO with the 3-in1 active imaging transducer will be fine in 50m (approx 150ft) of water.

I just got back from a trip to the Great Barrier reef and we were fishing out in 60-65m of water on my friends boat fitted with Lowrance Elite Ti (has the same sonar module as GO series) using a Totalscan transducer (same traditional sonar elements as 3 in 1) and had no difficulty at all seeing reefs, dropoffs, lumps and bumps. The main thing is to have the transducer set up properly.

It wont have issues seeing structure like wrecks in that depth. Its just that the finer definition is not as good as a narrower cone angle transducer.

I would grab the GO/3in1 combo. Or the Lowrance equivalent Elite Ti2.


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