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Old 10-12-2006, 11:43 AM
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Default Lowrance X-104 or X 111

I can get a used x-104 for $500 from my brother or purchase a new X-111 for $1300, which one would you buy? Both of the units will come with the full regiment of dual transducers and gps head units. My boat already has fuel flowmeter as well as radar, so I wouldn't be using the nema 2000 devices.

Another thing is that my boat currently has an X -19 unit on it so all the plugs would interconnect without rewiring.

I think you can see which way I am leaning, heard anypros or cons about this unit?

Thanks, Steve Ng
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Default Re: Lowrance X-104 or X 111

I have the 19 and love it.
I think the 111 has alot more pixels than the 104. Nope the same.
Both are nice. Maybe the 111 has the lastest gps stuff.
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Default RE: Lowrance X-104 or X 111

Fish Ng1,

Be sure to check those connectors, If the x 19 has grey connectors I do not think it will work with the blue connectors on the Nema 2000 units.

Just a thought.
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Default RE: Lowrance X-104 or X 111

There is not $800 between the units go with the 104. Do you have chips for the 104? The 111 comes preloaded with everything. But for $800 you could buy a ton of chips!
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Default Re: Lowrance X-104 or X 111

I am aware that the X-111 has the blue connectors, that is one of the reasons to stay with the 104, it will make for an easy swap. I do have all the maps I need for my X-19 that will just plug into the 104. I have already called my brother in Alaska and told him that I would take the 104, saves me time wiring and money as well. With the savings, I think I am going to order one of those tilted thru hull transducers for it and see how that works.

Thanks for the insight guys.

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Old 10-15-2006, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: Lowrance X-104 or X 111

Steve,
looks like you came up with a good solution. Buy the 104 and save the headache of rewiring as the 104 uses the same wiring as the 19..... Get connected to the nema 2000 devices. I have my X19 connected to the ICOM 502.....via nema 2000. Once you get connected then you can use the DSC features....and stay in contact (long/lats) with your buddies while on the water....just my 2 cents.

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I have my X19 connected to the ICOM 502.....via nema 2000.
No, you have it connected via NMEA 0183 version 2.0... The x-19 is not a NMEA 2000 unit..
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I have both, 104 in front interfaced to radar and VHF using NEMA w lowrance dual frq ducer

and 111 C HD in back interfaced to VHF (old tech) using NEMA w the GPS module on N2000. I did get the 111 w an Airmar P-66 ducer - BIG diff from the Low unit - assuming the FF guts are the same on both units, I would attribute the difference to the transducer. You are correct N200 units have blue plugs and do not connect to older style grey plugs.

Both ducers are installed right. Will go w Airmar stuff going fwd.

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Default Re: Lowrance X-104 or X 111

Outerlimits, good to hear from you, even though I did not run into you during the ocean salmon season this year. Edsmith is correct on the nema 2000, both my x-19 and the 104 use the nema 0183, and I do have my X-19 currently interface with my vhf and radar ( Position only with the Furuno radar).
Tomictime, nice to hear from you too, down in this section of the world. When you mention that you have the 104 interfaced with your radar, is this the same situation that I have with my X-19 or am I missing something with the 104?

Thanks for your input guys....hope to see you on the Tuna or Salmon grounds (even Halibut will work, although it looks like that opening will be cut short.)

Steve Ng
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hi Steve, I never see U mostly because I fish North of you: BC and a bit of Sound. Old boat does not have what I consider Tuna safe legs (range), fixing that. I am a 1/3 in reserve kind of guy.

The 104 to Furuno interface is one way only GPS position data and "loli-pop" for active waypt on Furuno screen. Display of the Nav data takes up quite a bit of the screen and is really duplicative. 104 is interfaced both ways to ICOM 602 VHF, so I can see DSC position and I send same.

Aft system transmits my position but does not put others on 111 screen as the VHF aft is an older icom 502.



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Default Re: Lowrance X-104 or X 111

edsmith03,

You are correct. I had my head elsewhere when I posted. Yea, the X19 is the NMEA 0183 version 2.0 and I did a lot of research to ensure that the ICOM 502 and the X19 could communicate. I connected both and they work great.
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Steve,
Go with the 111. I run the 104. I got it just before the 111 came out. Great unit. The 111 will let you use the NMEA fuel flow meter, radar, and other things along with the fully loaded maps. If you do not want the 111 let me know.
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Default Re: Lowrance X-104 or X 111

Too late Ron, I hated to do it, but I sold it to Todd G. Like I said I already have a fuel flow meter, furuno radar and the necessary maps that I would be using on the 111 that are built in. The only thing that I think that I will miss would be the radar overlay and the advantage of having more pixels. If I had kept it, I am sure that I would be spending more money on the radar and such, so for a while the 104 will have to keep me happy.
BTW ...... Welcome to one of the greatest places on the internet, THE HULL TRUTH. I have been here for quite a while and it is a great resource.

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