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Old 10-11-2006, 11:15 PM
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Default Color fish finders; help needed

After years of black and white I finally broke down and got color. (raymarine DS400SX).

Ok so now I'm trying to to decipher it. Arches from what I know are fish are actually less defined than what I am used to seeing on the old unit, (humminbird matrix 47). I'm still tweaking the alignment on the xducer to get the best angle, but what I am trying to decipher is the real advantage of color. All I read and hear says color will really let you decipher structure, contours and the like better.

Anyone got a few minutes they can explain the differences to me? Any online references? I emailed Raymarine for more information, they sent me a link to buy a video to tell me how to read the display! I might bite on that but I don't need FF101, just some comparison of what color looks like versus b/w. (welcome to raymarine; you did not spend enough yet, please send more so as to enjoy your product more).

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Old 10-12-2006, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: Color fish finders; help needed

Kinda like color TV vs black & white....

I made the switch a few years ago and although color is easier to look at, I don't find that it shows me anything more than I could see on my old gray scale unit......An orange ball of bait might be prettier than a gray ball of bait but it's still the same ball of bait.
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Default RE: Color fish finders; help needed

Mr T,
Light objects like weed and bait are green.
Yellow shows larger bait, or plenty of them in concentration. Also sand some times is yellow
Orange is definitely sand if it is solid at the bottom.
Rock bottoms, ledges and structures are dark red, or brown. Now, if among a ball of yellow and green a few feet from the bottom you see red, then you hit the jackpot. Density of objects, start from green and go to brown. With mono FF you may not see that. Although, you may learn by instinct.
Hummingbird and other affordable units, try to be helpful and translate the signals for you to shapes like fish and or other, but mostly they are wrong.
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Default Re: Color fish finders; help needed

Thanks guys I guess I fell for some hype as far as the benefits, although it is easier to see in sunlight; (thats gonna be my new excuse to the wife for buying it). How about salt water versus fresh? I fish a lot in the Delta and can fish part of a day in fresh and run out to the moth ball fleet and be in salt 30 minutes later. Some says that color is better in salt since you can actually detect different fish by the color. More Smoke up my A$%?
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Mr T
There has been alot of talk about the ray units here on this board.And alot of people have had several problems with there units.Including myself.[DX500] As for me. I will not buy another raymarine product again. Jeff
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Mr T I second blfshr 's statement. Raymarine units are plagued with problems. I am done with them as well. I have the C-120 system w/radar/gps and have had problems from day 1. Factory has been worthless to me. I will NEVER buy Maymarine again. Capt. George
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Default Re: Color fish finders; help needed

I have an E80 and love the HD sounder plus all the other options...I can not say for the C, but the E series is awesome.
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Default Re: Color fish finders; help needed

I have a DS400 on my kayak, A65 on my boat and never had any problems with either one, flipped few times dunked it couple of times (kayak/400 not the boat) still going strong. It took me a while to get used to it being in color but as earlier replies indicate, its all in the learning to look at different colors, I understand that if you have used a B/W for years you have learned all the shades of gray and what they indicate, I used to turn my 400 from color to B/W just to see what was underneath and after a while I didn't need to do it anymore, as far as being digital TC and giving you a clearer picture, well, I'll leave that subject alone altogether.

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