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I am a total rookie at this and just want to hear some suggestions to this before I spend money on something I don't know about. What would be an excellent ride for bay, bayous and flats fishing that will not break the bank? I need as much input as possible so I can understand the reasons for and against different yaks. Thanks for any help I can get!
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# 1 - How much do you want to spend?
# 2 - weight capacity- You and your gear?
# 3 - What will you use it for? fishing, exercise, voyaging, diving, hunting?
# 4 - How will you transport it?

Generally speaking:
bigger yak, more money more options, and more weight.
Smaller yak, less options, less money, less weight
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I didn't get any responses here so I relied on other forums to get information. I tried several brands and then purchased an Old Town Predator PDL. All I can say is what a boat. Very stable, roomy, comfortable, and you can cover some serious water. My first trip out in the bay, I went about 8 miles.
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Sounds like a good choice Old Town has great quality. The weather is getting right! Hope you enjoy it.
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Sit on top is the only way to go and at 13' it should be a good medium between stability/ tracking maneuverability. I have a easily removable trolling motor just to cover more water in some areas.
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Find a good local dealer and buy there. They can provide great guidance. In Virginia that would Appomattox River Co. I drove 1.5 hours each way to shop and buy from them. It was worth it! But probably not worth it from FL!!! Your dealer may also have a "demo day" once or twice a year where you can actually paddle different boats. Another good choice is a freshwater fishing show with a couple of kayak dealers.
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Originally Posted by spineyman View Post
I didn't get any responses here so I relied on other forums to get information. I tried several brands and then purchased an Old Town Predator PDL. All I can say is what a boat. Very stable, roomy, comfortable, and you can cover some serious water. My first trip out in the bay, I went about 8 miles.
Mind sharing the approximate cost? Looking to get into Kayaking myself since I sold the boat. Thx.
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There are hundreds of kayak companies many with similar products and then there is Hobie with a product so superior to everyone else that you have to pay for it. I challenge anyone to demo Hobies and then buy something else. I do free Hobie demos in the NY, PA,NJ area..
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Originally Posted by spineyman View Post
I didn't get any responses here so I relied on other forums to get information. I tried several brands and then purchased an Old Town Predator PDL. All I can say is what a boat. Very stable, roomy, comfortable, and you can cover some serious water. My first trip out in the bay, I went about 8 miles.
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There are hundreds of kayak companies many with similar products and then there is Hobie with a product so superior to everyone else that you have to pay for it. I challenge anyone to demo Hobies and then buy something else. I do free Hobie demos in the NY, PA,NJ area..
I'm glad you think Hobie is the best because I did demo Hobies and went with Old Town Predator PDL. The pedal motion of the Hobie killed my knees so I went with a rotation pedal craft instead of straight back and forth. I am so impressed with it you could not give me a brand spanking new PA14 fully loaded for mine. But thanks for the response!
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Most people complain about the circular rotation of the prop drives hurting their knees. You may have tested a set of turbo flippers instead of the smaller standard flippers. My wife cant use the larger ones because of a weak knee. Good luck with the old towne in shallow water.
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I've got 2 Native kayaks, love em and you do get what ya pay for

Have a used Native Ultimate FX12 -- Pros: more like a canoe, you'll stay dry, great for skinny water, standing up, easy to haul & load, plenty of options for mounting gear, Cons - have to paddle, like a canoe so you shouldn't take it offshore
Bought it new Native Slayer Propel 13 -- Pros: huge sit on top kayak, like the PA14, fast, standing up easy, have gone 1 mile offshore, pedal and reverse is really really nice, plenty of options for mounting gear Cons -- not as great for skinny water, could use a steering upgrade, harder to haul around, not good for rivers with hidden obstacles

I live around freshwater so i find myself using the FX12 more often since its easier to haul around and i'm not facing big water. If I were going inshore fishing for reds, i'd probably take the FX12 because its better in skinny water and i wouldn't plan on being in big waves. If I wanted to fish just off the surf on some ARs or head out of the channel markers for cobia and tripletail, I'm using the Slayer Propel
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Originally Posted by barrell View Post
Most people complain about the circular rotation of the prop drives hurting their knees. You may have tested a set of turbo flippers instead of the smaller standard flippers. My wife cant use the larger ones because of a weak knee. Good luck with the old towne in shallow water.
I tried both and no can do. Shallow water no problem. I just unlock the drive and pry my feet under the sides if the drive barely and keep on truckin. Obviously not too much of a problem because I have caught over 400 fish since I got it in December, and all are in the 6" to 4 foot range. I also fish with a guy who has a slayer and a guy with a pa and strangely enough the only one in the drink in 38 degree weather and 45 degree water was the guy in the pa. So enjoy your over priced Hobie and I will continue to slay fish with my PDL.
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Originally Posted by porcha View Post
I've got 2 Native kayaks, love em and you do get what ya pay for

Have a used Native Ultimate FX12 -- Pros: more like a canoe, you'll stay dry, great for skinny water, standing up, easy to haul & load, plenty of options for mounting gear, Cons - have to paddle, like a canoe so you shouldn't take it offshore
Bought it new Native Slayer Propel 13 -- Pros: huge sit on top kayak, like the PA14, fast, standing up easy, have gone 1 mile offshore, pedal and reverse is really really nice, plenty of options for mounting gear Cons -- not as great for skinny water, could use a steering upgrade, harder to haul around, not good for rivers with hidden obstacles

I live around freshwater so i find myself using the FX12 more often since its easier to haul around and I'm not facing big water. If I were going inshore fishing for reds, i'd probably take the FX12 because its better in skinny water and i wouldn't plan on being in big waves. If I wanted to fish just off the surf on some ARs or head out of the channel markers for cobia and tripletail, I'm using the Slayer Propel
I tried the propel and could not feel comfortable in it. It was the first kayak I ever set foot in. It was also last years model and he tried to discount it 1000 bucks to get me to buy it. I just didn't feel comfortable in it. Then I tried the Hobies and then the Old town, and the rest is history. I am also glad I made the decision I did. All of my fishing to date in a kayak has been in shallow water, but crossing big bodies of water sometime to get to where we need to be. I stay dry and my fishing buddy in the Propel 13 gets wet all the time.
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yea nothing wrong with the PDL, took the good parts of the slayer and made it better

after getting my first bonus in 2015, i paid $1600 cash for the Slayer end of year sale at my local dealer, paid $700 for a 2 year old Ultimate FX
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Originally Posted by porcha View Post
yea nothing wrong with the PDL, took the good parts of the slayer and made it better

after getting my first bonus in 2015, i paid $1600 cash for the Slayer end of year sale at my local dealer, paid $700 for a 2 year old Ultimate FX
He was all the way down to $1400 on the slayer for me, but he said it was last years model and he wanted it gone so he could stock a new model. I just for some reason didn't feel comfortable in it. My fishing buddy loves his. I was afraid to stand up in it I will say that, and have zero problems standing in mine now. I do it all the time. Maybe being the first yak I sat in had something to do with it I don't know.
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Originally Posted by spineyman View Post
I'm glad you think Hobie is the best because I did demo Hobies and went with Old Town Predator PDL. The pedal motion of the Hobie killed my knees so I went with a rotation pedal craft instead of straight back and forth. I am so impressed with it you could not give me a brand spanking new PA14 fully loaded for mine. But thanks for the response!
Looks like you're no longer a rookie as in your first post...now you're a seasoned veteran fish slayer.

Lots of preferences on fishing kayaks, but it generally comes down to price. Those that want a proven fishing machine will pony up for a Hobie PA and never look back.

Good luck with your PDL.
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Originally Posted by barrell View Post
There are hundreds of kayak companies many with similar products and then there is Hobie with a product so superior to everyone else that you have to pay for it. I challenge anyone to demo Hobies and then buy something else. I do free Hobie demos in the NY, PA,NJ area..
hobie does make a great product. That said they are far from superior to everyone else. First the "best kayak" is based on a persons individual needs. My point,,,i like to fish offshore, hobie does make some good yaks for this but cant compete with my stealth fisha 500. Its important to demo in real world conditions that you will be paddling in or pedaing in.

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