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Old 02-23-2019, 06:35 PM
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Default Thoughts on the 224 Blackjack with 175 Mercury?

Looking for your thoughts and or from any current Blackjack owners?

I was at the Biloxi boat show today and the price I was offered for the 224 with the new 175 Mer is pretty much irresistible. The salesman stated the boat with the Mercury will run around 45mph.

My questions to all are:
1- What is the stats of those that have the 224 (MPH, MPG, Size motor)?
2- they will put a 200 Suzuki on the back for the same price... Thoughts?
3- I hear everyone state that this boat rides better than any other bay boat and can handle rough weather.

I run from Biloxi to Chandeleur and if/when caught in a storm I am looking to see what I can expect. I have only owned deep-V boats, and fished on one bay boat.



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Im guessing it would hit 50ish?

I'd pass personally, but I like powa.
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That is like buying a 4 cylinder Mustang. It looks the part, just don't go racing it.

The 224 is not the best riding bay boat, but it may seriously be the best riding 22' bay boat.

My experience is from one with a 250 Verado. That one runs like a sports car. If you can afford it, treat that hull to the speed that it handles so well.
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Is the 175 Mercury the new v6? If so I bet it’s probably a good one. Get 4-5 people on it and go for a demo
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Originally Posted by LivetoFish View Post
Is the 175 Mercury the new v6? If so I bet itís probably a good one. Get 4-5 people on it and go for a demo
YesÖ it is the new V6 175 Mercury... I wanted the 200 mercury, but they're on backorder and guys are having to wait for over a year in some cases. My third option that I am starting to learn forward on is the 225 Mercury.
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Originally Posted by visco View Post
Looking for your thoughts and or from any current Blackjack owners?

I was at the Biloxi boat show today and the price I was offered for the 224 with the new 175 Mer is pretty much irresistible. The salesman stated the boat with the Mercury will run around 45mph.

My questions to all are:
1- What is the stats of those that have the 224 (MPH, MPG, Size motor)?
2- they will put a 200 Suzuki on the back for the same price... Thoughts?
3- I hear everyone state that this boat rides better than any other bay boat and can handle rough weather.

I run from Biloxi to Chandeleur and if/when caught in a storm I am looking to see what I can expect. I have only owned deep-V boats, and fished on one bay boat.


Resist, transom can handle a 300 easy. New 225 merc would be the least hp I would hook up to that Hull. Dealer is treating the 224 like a loss leader boat and I bet bill Kenner would not be happy.
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Go with the ZUK and be done...
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You and 4 of your buddies have a box of fish and a storm starts to bare down from the south on you 40 miles from port... at that point is it worth it to save a little money by under powering a boat?
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I think you will be disappointed in 175hp. 200 or 225 would be a much better match. Like was said before, resist the temptation to jump too quickly.
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250 even better!
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My 224 has a 250 sho on it, and I wouldn't want much less than that.

Real world performance numbers with multiple fishermen, full tank of gas, 4 batteries, trolling motor, fishing gear, 10ft power pole, etc. Running a worked 21 pitch sws2. Wot is normally somewhere between 57 and 62, depending on load.

Mph MPG
30 4.1
40 3.4
55 2.4
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I'd rather have the 175 v6 Merc than an i4 200. But I'd rather have a 250.
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If you really like the boat and are getting a great deal, jump all over it. I see itís rated for a 300, so itís probably a little underpowered with a 175. The new V6 is no slouch though, so donít count it out until you get behind the wheel.

Personally, Iíd want the new V8 in a 200, 250 or even the 300 ProXS FourStroke. Once their availability gets better, you always have the option to repower. That 175 V6 wouldnít take too much to get rid of.
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Originally Posted by Mike L. View Post
My 224 has a 250 sho on it, and I wouldn't want much less than that.

Real world performance numbers with multiple fishermen, full tank of gas, 4 batteries, trolling motor, fishing gear, 10ft power pole, etc. Running a worked 21 pitch sws2. Wot is normally somewhere between 57 and 62, depending on load.

Mph MPG
30 4.1
40 3.4
55 2.4
Originally Posted by Elgreco809 View Post
I'd rather have the 175 v6 Merc than an i4 200. But I'd rather have a 250.
Originally Posted by davidwademarine View Post
If you really like the boat and are getting a great deal, jump all over it. I see itís rated for a 300, so itís probably a little underpowered with a 175. The new V6 is no slouch though, so donít count it out until you get behind the wheel.

Personally, Iíd want the new V8 in a 200, 250 or even the 300 ProXS FourStroke. Once their availability gets better, you always have the option to repower. That 175 V6 wouldnít take too much to get rid of.
Mike,
thanks for the numbers... that's what I was looking for.

Gentlemen,
everyone has giving me something to think about now. I am going to talk to the dealer about my options (175 merc, 225merc and 250merc). Depending on what is available, and what he can offer me will determine what I end up getting.

I have heard from multiple people that the new 175 merc V6 is nothing but outstanding, well actually the entire new mercury line starting at 175 and going all the way up.
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Originally Posted by visco View Post
Mike,
thanks for the numbers... that's what I was looking for.

Gentlemen,
everyone has giving me something to think about now. I am going to talk to the dealer about my options (175 merc, 225merc and 250merc). Depending on what is available, and what he can offer me will determine what I end up getting.

I have heard from multiple people that the new 175 merc V6 is nothing but outstanding, well actually the entire new mercury line starting at 175 and going all the way up.
I agree with everyone else. The 224 is known as a sports car and the 175 may be a great motor but it's going to kill resale. If this was a different boat I wouldn't think it'd matter much, but people looking to get a Black Jack probably want the performance they are capable of. I'd get 225 min.
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Originally Posted by joshd472 View Post
I agree with everyone else. The 224 is known as a sports car and the 175 may be a great motor but it's going to kill resale. If this was a different boat I wouldn't think it'd matter much, but people looking to get a Black Jack probably want the performance they are capable of. I'd get 225 min.
I am not a speed guy by no means... I have a 2005 dodge power wagon that has never been over 60 mph. However, I see what everyone is saying. my 20' Tidewater which is powered with a 115 (minimum size motor) and I have been in a couple of situations where I needed the extra power/speed. I will not do that again.
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Not sure if the BlackJack you are looking at is the same as this one....but, saw this a couple weekends ago in Houma, LA. Seemed like a really good deal on a BlackJack.​​​​​​​

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it is not the same boat... but I like that color, not so much the ETEC. The boat show price I was offered was $42K.
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Originally Posted by visco View Post
it is not the same boat... but I like that color, not so much the ETEC. The boat show price I was offered was $42K.
THAT was a good price! LOL
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Originally Posted by BlueShamu View Post


THAT was a good price! LOL
see... I told you I was offered a deal that is very hard to turn down. I plan to call today and see what my time frame is looking like to have it rigged up and ready and also if they would not mind doing up some numbers with the 225 merc and 250 vrod.

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