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Old 02-11-2019, 09:08 AM
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Seems like everybody is so concerned about the fish we take to eat, and how many are being caught or not caught...
I agree with most of it, but what about the exploding amount of sharks that show up everywhere!!! you go???
Is it the LOOP CURRENT? Global warming? To much fresh water???

I believe we need to put a season year around (bounty) on them to help out the cat food companies...
My soapbox for today...
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Old 02-11-2019, 09:45 AM
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This past summer fishing was the worst I have ever seen for sharks. Had to catch a hundred snapper to keep a 6 people limit.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:07 AM
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I went bottom fishing 20 times last year and I only lost maybe 3 fish to the tax man, and a 4th I saw was to a cuda or wahoo. Fishing public spots in 75-150'
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:14 AM
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Sharks were definitely thick this year. We didn't have a problem with them rig fishing but it was a nightmare tuna fishing. I'm pretty sure sharks are a good sign of a healthy fishery.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:15 AM
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Sharks ran us out of the water multiple times last year while diving. The worst one was in the first 30 seconds of the dive in the decent. Crazy amount of sharks out there this past year.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:53 AM
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Worst I have ever seen fishing out of Grand Isle, La. They seemed to show up weekend after 4th of July and where every where after that.
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Rise in Shark Population = Decrease in Tuna Population?
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Old 02-11-2019, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Vee 26 View Post
Rise in Shark Population = Decrease in Tuna Population?
You can just stop in open water 30 miles from anything in 6000' of water, turn on the lights and feed them your supper leftovers within an hour...
WTF???
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Old 02-11-2019, 03:45 PM
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Sharks seem to be getting worse every year while bottom fishing. I started diving 30 years ago and we very rarely saw sharks, now we see multiple sharks on every dive. Spearfishing is no fun any more. The scientists keep saying that the shark population is decreasing but that is not what we are seeing.
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:24 PM
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I tell people all the time that if they went offshore fishing with me just once, they'd never stick so much as a toe in the GOM ever again. Shark vermin are everywhere and seem worse each time I go. Trolling for hooters a few weeks ago, catching sharks on Rapalas. Not on dead or live bait; on Rapalas.
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It’s because they don’t allow shark fin soup anymore
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:51 PM
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The scientists keep saying that the shark population is decreasing but that is not what we are seeing.
follow the money, follow the money.....not not making this political but the facts are the facts.

The movie “An Inconvenient Truth” is now 13 years old and we weren’t suppose to make 10 years and I will be damned that the MIBS show this week will be high and dry and not under 5’ of water.


oh there is a Russian town that has a polar bear invasion right at this moment....or maybe albino grizzlies.... I am not sure since polar bears are also suppose to be extinct.

go ahead and eat shark fin soup. By the time you get to trial, the most you will serve is 7-8 years cause once again it all over in 12 years from now.
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:03 PM
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Don't shark eat good I've heard that it can you not keep any because of the shark fin soup ?
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I have been watching this for some time and i do predict a multiple sharknado event.
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follow the money, follow the money.....not not making this political but the facts are the facts.

The movie “An Inconvenient Truth” is now 13 years old and we weren’t suppose to make 10 years and I will be damned that the MIBS show this week will be high and dry and not under 5’ of water.


oh there is a Russian town that has a polar bear invasion right at this moment....or maybe albino grizzlies.... I am not sure since polar bears are also suppose to be extinct.

go ahead and eat shark fin soup. By the time you get to trial, the most you will serve is 7-8 years cause once again it all over in 12 years from now.
Your understanding of science is almost terrifying. Climate change is bad, and it has measurable effects right now, but any talk about making the earth uninhabitable in 10 years is complete BS, and I am absolutely certain that Inconvenient Truth never made that claim. I would love to know your source for that that. More fires, more droughts, more storms and more positive feedback loops making the above even more frequent, possibly becoming irreversible, but not uninhabitable. There are islands and cities that are already constantly flooded and permanent living will be impracticable to impossible, but not the entire planet.

As far as the "polar bear invasion" it's basic biology. Destroy the habitat, remove the food sources and predators will start looking for food elsewhere. A town full of trash and cooking fires smells pretty good to a starving bear. The fact that you are seeing more animals does not mean the population is increasing, hell that's the entire point of the red snapper debate. But when you survey the tundra and see a decrease in bear numbers, a decrease in breeding pairs, a decrease in cubs, a decrease in prey and less ice making it difficult to hunt and travel, and the bears that you do see are skinnier and in worse health it doesn't take Einstein to figure out that isn't great for the species.

I'm sure most of the shark populations in the gulf are healthy, but that doesn't mean the rest of the seas are too. And it's laughable that people use the "follow the money" saying to attack the scientists making 50k a year with masters and doctorates on their shelf, to defend the billionaires and millionaires in the fossil fuels industry. Have any of you guys ever seen or worked with biologists before? There isn't a single biologist in the business to get rich, that's for sure. It's also telling that Exxon and Shell knew about the impacts they were causing way back in the 70's and 80's. So is it more likely that the $4 trillion fossil fuel industry is trying to protect their profits or the dude driving the 1980 F-150 is trying to get rich by writing papers for an obscure journal that the general public doesn't read?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-40-years-ago/ .
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But on shark week they said sharks were being harvested to the brink of extinction around the world [sarcasm]
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:05 AM
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The problem is that the average person never hears from the real biologists you speak of. What you see and hear are people like Al Gore make a movie with wildly exaggerated models predicting worldwide catastrophe while he's sitting in one of his homes that has a bigger footprint than a small town, and California Gov Brown mitigate lack of proper measures for preventing catastrophic wildfire loss by putting blame entirely on climate change. Many people are being played for fools while others are turned completely off on the notion of climate change.
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Originally Posted by bluescholar View Post
Your understanding of science is almost terrifying. Climate change is bad, and it has measurable effects right now, but any talk about making the earth uninhabitable in 10 years is complete BS, and I am absolutely certain that Inconvenient Truth never made that claim. I would love to know your source for that that. More fires, more droughts, more storms and more positive feedback loops making the above even more frequent, possibly becoming irreversible, but not uninhabitable. There are islands and cities that are already constantly flooded and permanent living will be impracticable to impossible, but not the entire planet.

As far as the "polar bear invasion" it's basic biology. Destroy the habitat, remove the food sources and predators will start looking for food elsewhere. A town full of trash and cooking fires smells pretty good to a starving bear. The fact that you are seeing more animals does not mean the population is increasing, hell that's the entire point of the red snapper debate. But when you survey the tundra and see a decrease in bear numbers, a decrease in breeding pairs, a decrease in cubs, a decrease in prey and less ice making it difficult to hunt and travel, and the bears that you do see are skinnier and in worse health it doesn't take Einstein to figure out that isn't great for the species.

I'm sure most of the shark populations in the gulf are healthy, but that doesn't mean the rest of the seas are too. And it's laughable that people use the "follow the money" saying to attack the scientists making 50k a year with masters and doctorates on their shelf, to defend the billionaires and millionaires in the fossil fuels industry. Have any of you guys ever seen or worked with biologists before? There isn't a single biologist in the business to get rich, that's for sure. It's also telling that Exxon and Shell knew about the impacts they were causing way back in the 70's and 80's. So is it more likely that the $4 trillion fossil fuel industry is trying to protect their profits or the dude driving the 1980 F-150 is trying to get rich by writing papers for an obscure journal that the general public doesn't read?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-40-years-ago/ .

No dispute with climate change, dispute is the cause of it and whom should pay for it in a fair and sharing manner, IF and IF man is the root cause of climate change. Tides move with the moon, seasons change..... all of that was set up way before Billy Bob got his f100 truck.

PS What did the dinosaurs do to piss off mother earth to cause the catastrophy that wiped them out? Ice Age? Droughts over the years, Cyclones and Hurricannes predating fossil fuels. Asking for a friend. Thanks
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Old 02-12-2019, 07:28 AM
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I think its just people not understanding how sensitive the environment is. As i understand it, shark populations are decreasing in the western pacific/ indian ocean due to over fishing. This has caused GLOBAL shark populations to decline but when politicians and non sportsman see that, they crank up the pressure to protect sharks here. Its getting to the point where hammer heads in the keys stalk the marinas waiting for the tarpon fishermen to head out. My buddy swears they can even tell the difference between the tarpon boats (flats boats) and other boats and says he can see them following him the whole way out. I am all for conservation but if you dont look at the big picture things will get out of control. My other semi-related gripe is that perception is that sportsmen are blood thirsty and would wipe out the resource if left unchecked and therefore the general population and law makers tend to dismiss our observations.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:45 AM
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Sharks are as thick as I have ever seen them. I used to rope swing off rigs, but no more. I know its not the sharks I should be worried about, but BS.
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