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Old 02-08-2019, 04:46 PM
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People are really bad at reading comprehension on this site, guy was just asking a question. And yes we see atleast one out of Fourchon on almost every trip. Hamma job where is this abundance of tuna at? I sure havenít seen that the past few years. Only saw one good school in 6 trips last year and we fished almost every rig in GC on those trips. Year before was mediocre at best. Green canyon used to be all the 60-80lbers you wanted.
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Originally Posted by Cuttem View Post
People are really bad at reading comprehension on this site, guy was just asking a question. And yes we see atleast one out of Fourchon on almost every trip. Hamma job where is this abundance of tuna at? I sure havenít seen that the past few years. Only saw one good school in 6 trips last year and we fished almost every rig in GC on those trips. Year before was mediocre at best. Green canyon used to be all the 60-80lbers you wanted.
Think people posting pics on the internet are catching all your fish....
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Old 02-09-2019, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeepman View Post
what do they do with the blackfin they catch?

and my statement was for ALL wild caught fish, not just tuna.
The boats I have watched unload (and it's a lot) don't bring blackfin back to the dock.
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:19 AM
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Rather than dabble in the anecdotal evidence of 1 sample read some data on the commercial yellowfin fishery

https://extension.msstate.edu/sites/...-Tuna-2018.pdf

And that anyone would blame hook and line, weekend warriors for stock depletion probably hasn't read a dang thing and is just talking (posting) out their ass. Purse seining is what does harm to the stock. But to date not one study has indicated that yft are overfished or undergoing overfishing
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Old 02-09-2019, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
The boats I have watched unload (and it's a lot) don't bring blackfin back to the dock.
They got to catch a bunch of them, sucks if they are bycatch for them. Know for a fact red snapper are used in Pet food, would expect the same from the commerical tuna guys for lesser wanted species.
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Originally Posted by Jeepman View Post
They got to catch a bunch of them, sucks if they are bycatch for them. Know for a fact red snapper are used in Pet food, would expect the same from the commerical tuna guys for lesser wanted species.
Only if not market grade. The RS were spoiled.
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Only if not market grade. The RS were spoiled.
Not always.
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Old 02-11-2019, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuttem View Post
People are really bad at reading comprehension on this site, guy was just asking a question. And yes we see atleast one out of Fourchon on almost every trip. Hamma job where is this abundance of tuna at? I sure havenít seen that the past few years. Only saw one good school in 6 trips last year and we fished almost every rig in GC on those trips. Year before was mediocre at best. Green canyon used to be all the 60-80lbers you wanted.
You're proving my point that Commercial fishing pressure has nothing to do with abundance. We have about 20% reduction of the domestic fleet annually for last 4 years. I know for a fact that between amendment 7 and the weak hook requirement a couple of years before that, the GOM is at about 50% capacity vs 6 years ago. People need to stop blaming local abundance of pelagic fish on fishing and more on the fact that they are wide ranging and have tails. These aren't snappers and shouldn't be treated as such.
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​​​​​​maybe I missed it, but how many bluefin tuna are they allowed to harvest? I know that is closely regulated.
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Originally Posted by jacks05 View Post
​​​​​​maybe I missed it, but how many bluefin tuna are they allowed to harvest? I know that is closely regulated.
Rec was 3500#'s in 2018. No one can "target" BF in the gulf. Not sure there is any commercial quota for incidental catches.
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Old 02-11-2019, 12:29 PM
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There you have it, again. Louisiana the 2nd largest producer of yft in the US as of 4 months ago. Are we seriously not at least going to bring the commercial fisherman into the conversation on what we can do to conserve our resource?

Also, I've always heard the stories of people catching giant yft on the troll while marlin fishing back in the 70s-80s. I know I've only seen one big tuna caught on the troll in my lifetime. Seems awfully coincidental with the sharp spike in commercial harvest in the 80s...
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Originally Posted by Jeepman View Post
There should at least be laws against wild caught fish being used for dog and cat food.
No one is sending a whole blue fin to Purina... It's all fins and assholes.
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Originally Posted by schol1 View Post
There you have it, again. Louisiana the 2nd largest producer of yft in the US as of 4 months ago. Are we seriously not at least going to bring the commercial fisherman into the conversation on what we can do to conserve our resource?

Also, I've always heard the stories of people catching giant yft on the troll while marlin fishing back in the 70s-80s. I know I've only seen one big tuna caught on the troll in my lifetime. Seems awfully coincidental with the sharp spike in commercial harvest in the 80s...
While marlin fishing at FADS?
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Originally Posted by popeyeiii View Post
No one is sending a whole blue fin to Purina... It's all fins and assholes.
doubtful if any bluefin are making it into pet food, but think you and others would be surprised what fish do make it WHOLE into pet food. and this is not something new, and it is becoming more popular.


https://acana.com/usa/our-foods/dog-...wild-atlantic/

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Originally Posted by schol1 View Post
There you have it, again. Louisiana the 2nd largest producer of yft in the US as of 4 months ago. Are we seriously not at least going to bring the commercial fisherman into the conversation on what we can do to conserve our resource?

Also, I've always heard the stories of people catching giant yft on the troll while marlin fishing back in the 70s-80s. I know I've only seen one big tuna caught on the troll in my lifetime. Seems awfully coincidental with the sharp spike in commercial harvest in the 80s...
Most of the big YFT are still landed on the troll. Go to the weigh of any GC marlin tournament, any placing tuna was landed on the troll and nary a big girl caught chunking. The MGCBC shows its winners going back ten (10) years. 1st place in 2008 was 181 pounds. 1st place in 2018 was 182 pounds. I'm not spotting a trend there.
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Old 02-12-2019, 01:46 PM
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most fish markets want 100 lb plus yellow fin and that is why the imported fish sell so well in the US markets, they yield a large loin you can cut large steaks from

but my understanding is the yellow fin landed in Louisiana and in Destin/Panama City are mostly 40 lb to 80 lb fish

so it's not the top of the market size fish
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Old 02-12-2019, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by trarmer007 View Post
Most of the big YFT are still landed on the troll. Go to the weigh of any GC marlin tournament, any placing tuna was landed on the troll and nary a big girl caught chunking. The MGCBC shows its winners going back ten (10) years. 1st place in 2008 was 181 pounds. 1st place in 2018 was 182 pounds. I'm not spotting a trend there.
Those are summer time fish caught on the troll. Chunking during the summer usually results in 50-100 lbrs. Chunking behind a shrimp boat or at the lump is a different story. But there aren't any billfish tournaments going on at that time.
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Mexico allowing foreign flagged vessels to rape their waters for $$$ should be alarming. These vessels fish with impunity and zero regards for quotas.
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Originally Posted by ffiisshh0 View Post
Mexico allowing foreign flagged vessels to rape their waters for $$$ should be alarming. These vessels fish with impunity and zero regards for quotas.
Build a wall!!!
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