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Old 02-06-2019, 08:33 AM
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Lots of great views here. It is pretty simple guys. If we don't regulate ourselves, someone else will. I agree GCC there's just no need for that much meat. And MayhemFT spot on. I know it was hard to start this thread Cuttem but thanks for taking one for the team. Everyone needs to be reminded to be good sportsmen, both on land and offshore. And some need a wave slapped across the bow to be reminded.
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Old 02-06-2019, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rbhankins001 View Post
typical fishing "story"

it was 87 bro
He had to feed the hood man!
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:36 AM
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Some people have more friends than you that love fresh fish and shouldn't be punished for that.
They should get their own boat then.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by redfishray View Post
. Jeepman, I love your posts and you are obviously a very good fisherman but I gotta say, on this one, Cuttem is spot on. Not crying, not hating, just want my daughter to be able to experience what I have one day. The trip I am talking about, I could have caught 50++ wahoo. I didn't because it was unnecessary.
Thanks, here as of late starting to wonder if I still know how to fish, been to long but was a great hunting season !!!
I agree with Cuttem, just do not agree with his methods. Attacking fellow fishermen is not the correct way to go about it. And once again will point out this needs to be taken up on the STATE LEVEL. Not sure why anyone is bringing NOAA into this.

Lets be frank about this, asking REC fishermen or attacking them on social media to lower limits themselves will not work. So there will be endless bitching and moaning about people taking to many fish unless the state steps in and changes the regulations.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:48 AM
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The ones opposing regulation on them will be the first ones screaming at NOAA for regulating them. I seem to remember a pic a few years back of a small boat in Louisiana that had the decks covered in triple tail, and it was shortly after that was posted that the regulations on the species came rolling down and I personally am happy that it did. Regulations catch a bad rap but Id rather have regulations than no fish. Now with all that being said, I do believe the regulations need to be within reason and make sense based on accurate, scientific stock assessments and NOT stem from political agendas. The daily limit on my boat for YFT is 1-2 per person or less depending on size even though the legal limit is 3 per person per day. No one needs more tuna than that at a time and if you don't like it you can stay at the dock. I can also tell you that I'll never pack the fish box with an unregulated species such as wahoo, even though IMO it makes the best sushi and grilled fish, its just stupid. To the poster that mentioned the Venice guys setting lower limits on YFT, yes some do but there are still some who will get their customers limit plus the crew limit to make the customer happier. What those guys arent realizing is that when there is no more of an abundance of tuna, there will be no more customers. In this day and age with the boats, gear and electronics that we have at our disposal I firmly believe it has an adverse effect on species population. If you were to eliminate just GPS alone and imagine only having LORAN-C, there would be a lot more "clean ice" coming back to the docks...
Yep, i know all of those guys and all but one regret what they did to get the heat turned up. BTW, it was four boats the day of that pic and three the previous day with the same number of TT.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:55 AM
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Some people have more friends than you that love fresh fish and shouldn't be punished for that.
All of my friends love venison but I'm not going to bring two buddys, the wife and kids and shoot everything on the lease for that reason.

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Old 02-06-2019, 10:36 AM
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All of my friends love venison but I'm not going to bring two buddys, the wife and kids and shoot everything on the lease for that reason.
Because it would be illegal. I'm not sure how that's analogous to what's being discussed in this thread.

In this thread:
  • Someone caught a lot of fish;
  • Someone else isn't happy about it and wants that to stop;
  • Others agree; and
  • Others think there needs to be a law against catching fish legally.
I would caution you guys against attacking fishermen for catching fish that are legal to catch.

The feds apparently want to shut down every fishery we have already. Additionally, the fisheries the feds manage in the Gulf are managed terribly.

You guys need to be careful what you wish for. I feel certain someone 15-years ago posted that they saw someone with a legal limit of snapper and that nobody needs that much meat.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:02 AM
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Thinking about it, I dont think I ever heard of a duck hunter saying let's stop at 4 ducks per person instead of the 6 per person limit when ducks are coming into the decoys. Lol just throwing that out there.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:07 AM
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Iím in agreement with following the law. Iíve also made decisions to stop catching. Had 3 people on boat and had a 103,105, and a 143. We threw the rest back as we had as much meat as we and our other friends needed for the next 5-6 months. Anymore and we would have wasted good tuna. If it is going to be eaten I am fully in agreement with loading the box to the legal limit.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:09 AM
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If you could only fish one small section of a freshwater lake you would likely have good and bad years as the fish move around. We are only fishing a small portion of the gulf....
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Vee 26 View Post
Iím in agreement with following the law. Iíve also made decisions to stop catching. Had 3 people on boat and had a 103,105, and a 143. We threw the rest back as we had as much meat as we and our other friends needed for the next 5-6 months. Anymore and we would have wasted good tuna. If it is going to be eaten I am fully in agreement with loading the box to the legal limit.
100% agree. If you keep it please dont let it sit in the freezer getting freezer burt. Fish are best eaten fairly fresh anyway.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:44 AM
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Because it would be illegal. I'm not sure how that's analogous to what's being discussed in this thread.
If everyone has a license and shoots their tags full - same as the guys with 19 wahoo - nothing illegal at all.

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Some of you guys missed the point here. . .
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Old 02-06-2019, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Trial View Post
I would caution you guys against attacking fishermen for catching fish that are legal to catch.

The feds apparently want to shut down every fishery we have already. Additionally, the fisheries the feds manage in the Gulf are managed terribly.

You guys need to be careful what you wish for. I feel certain someone 15-years ago posted that they saw someone with a legal limit of snapper and that nobody needs that much meat.
I think this is a good conversation for folks to have. You make part of my point when you say the feds are managing the Gulf terribly. That would be the very reason we would want regulate ourselves rather than push a species to the point of federal regulation as we did with triggerfish. The conversation comes down to beliefs and values.

Do you believe the species can sustain "enthusiastic" harvest?

Does your value set tell you that if it's legal it's okay?

My answer to the above questions are "no" and "not always."


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Old 02-06-2019, 12:18 PM
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arguing over something someone "heard" ?

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Old 02-06-2019, 12:22 PM
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19 wahoo hit the dock from one boat and nobody has a pic? shesh
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Old 02-06-2019, 12:40 PM
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I know of another one that caught 17 last week. It wasnít a contender....
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Old 02-06-2019, 12:43 PM
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I don't like cleaning limits of duck, fish, doves.............pretty much nuttin. So I catch kill what we can eat............and be done.
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Old 02-06-2019, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Vee 26 View Post
If you could only fish one small section of a freshwater lake you would likely have good and bad years as the fish move around. We are only fishing a small portion of the gulf....
Wahoo migrate based on water temps / bait. There is a post up top right now from a guy who just went wahoo fishing out of destin and had zero bites. Why? Because all the fish that are on the edge east of the Mississippi in mid-April to October are at the shelf rigs of LA in Jan/Feb.

You may think you are only fishing a small portion of the gulf but you are basically fishing next to the feeders on a catfish pond. Keep doing it at an unsustainable rate you are not going to have good years and bad years. Oil rigs and the bathymetry of the areas off LA (and Texas) are no different corn feeders in prime food plots - that are easily accessible. They are the epicenter of gulf fishing for HMS and when the fish congregate on them you can inflict more macro damage than you believe you are doing. There are large discussions internationally about sustainable FAD fishing.
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Old 02-06-2019, 01:03 PM
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One thing for sure - if "we"carry on with the self inflicted divide and conquer.....good 'ol Roy will be along with a solution that no one likes.
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