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Old 03-20-2017, 07:52 AM   #41
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According to those numbers, we went over last years limit of 1,255,600lbs by a whopping 919,859lbs !!!!!!

And they shut us down at the end of June last year.

So that means recreational fisherman caught 2,175,000lbs of AJ in 6 months last year.

I don't believe it.

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Old 03-20-2017, 08:16 AM   #42
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If I remember correctly AJ was closed at the beginning of June last year. I have always questioned why the closure was necessary during snapper season and not some other time of the year. No two fish of different species at the same time apparently.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:11 AM   #43
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Their catch numbers are crazy. They are fun to catch but not great table fare. I keep maybe one AJ per year.
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Old 03-20-2017, 12:11 PM   #44
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Go to the link and let the council know how you feel about the closure. Vulgar language is highly recommended.

http://gulfcouncil.org/council_meeti...jack%20ACL.php
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Done, I know it will get deleted on their end but maybe enough people will make some noise. I did have a thought though....what about a class action law suit against NOAA and GMFMC?
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Sold my Contender too much BS
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Old 03-20-2017, 05:57 PM   #47
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Done, I know it will get deleted on their end but maybe enough people will make some noise. I did have a thought though....what about a class action law suit against NOAA and GMFMC?
I am down for that.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:30 PM   #48
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Why don't y'all just start sinking commercial boats at the dock
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:52 PM   #49
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If I remember correctly AJ was closed at the beginning of June last year. I have always questioned why the closure was necessary during snapper season and not some other time of the year. No two fish of different species at the same time apparently.
I asked someone at the NOAA why the AJ season was closed during June and July. She said it's because "we noticed that more amberjack were being harvested during those months". Of course, idiots.
Agree with Tom Hilton and appreciate his efforts. If we don't do something now it will be too late. It's easy for them to take away, but hard as heck to give anything back to rec fishermen. It's really insulting.
Is Robert Barham being considered for top NOAA position.?
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How does one join anglers defense?
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:27 PM   #51
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Why don't y'all just start sinking commercial boats at the dock
First thought that comes to mind is JAIL. Second, it's not really their fault. I mean sure it's the system they support, but only for their financial benefit. Can't blame them for wanting to make a living. With that being said, I wouldn't mind seeing certain ones go up in flames. But then there's that JAIL thing.
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Old 03-21-2017, 04:30 AM   #52
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I bought a offshore boat 4 years ago because i wanted to fish offshore. In that 4 years I have caught ONE amberjack that was legal in season !!!!!! Since then they have closed one season after another, the rules read like the TAX CODE !!!!!!!! No one can understand the rules, reason or the system. It's past time to make changes YOU ARE FIRED!!!!!! MAYBE DONALD WILL HELP US!!!!!
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Old 03-21-2017, 09:59 AM   #53
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If I wasn't holding the papers for my ride - it would be sold.. the situation is laughable at best..
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Old 03-21-2017, 10:26 AM   #54
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Tending to agree with ono loco......My CC with twins is quickly becoming a sandbar queen. Just hard to justify gas, ice, etc, to run offshore, catch em, and let em go....very frustrating....
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Yup - it's either hit the sandbar , or run 200 miles R/T for Tiles for a guaranteed dinner - there really is much left in between if you care nothing about kingfish and jacks. My Salt Life is wavering..
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It is times like this I fell really stupid for buying another boat. But this is the reason i bought a more economical boat to operate.
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Can someone explain how the ACT (annual catch target) accurately does it's job? I've been in contact with NOAA and they explain what the system is but not it's accuracy. It seems a lot is left up in the air, meaning the season is closed based on a "trend line".
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Why don't y'all just start sinking commercial boats at the dock
Why would anyone do that?
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Here's the comment I posted.

I'd like to know how you determined if I caught any greater amberjack this year. Please detail the process you went through in determining what I caught. Thanks for your time.

Now that is a very simple question. Unfortunately they cannot answer it.
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Here's the comment I posted.

I'd like to know how you determined if I caught any greater amberjack this year. Please detail the process you went through in determining what I caught. Thanks for your time.

Now that is a very simple question. Unfortunately they cannot answer it.


I asked basically the same thing. There haven't been enough fishable days this year for recreational anglers to have harvested almost 500,000 pounds of Amberjack. Any suggestions on how to accurately monitor catch rates? Everyone says let the states manage it. How will they keep track?
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