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Old 07-27-2012, 11:30 AM
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Default Vertical jigs/ Butterfly jigs/ Speed jigs TIP for the weekend

When vertical jigging we get a lot of hits on the way down but with that we get a fair amount of misses as well simply because sometimes the hook is vertical and not in the strike zone.

A little trick i use sometimes is to add a bit of rigging floss or a rubber band to the rig keeping it tight to the body of the butterfly/vertical jig. Once the fish is hooked the floss or rubber band breaks free and the fun begins!

For instructional purposes i used a white band but i like to use a black or clear band best!


Tight lines, Flat Seas and God bless,
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hook out of the strike zone while the jig is on the way down



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Old 07-27-2012, 12:04 PM
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That is a great idea, especially for blackfin tuna that always hit it on the way down.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:08 PM
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yup! i fish without it 90% of the time but there are some days were the fish just want to hit it on the way down and this will help curve things in your favor!
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:11 PM
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Awesome idea. Will definately try when we go chunking this weekend.
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Thanks! Let us know how you do
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:36 PM
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that is a good tip that I will try. Here's another, I have had some luck putting the jig down to what I estimate is the right depth and leaving it in the rod holder in slightly wavey conditions. May be old news to you guys but I just came across this by acident when I had to put the rod down to doing something else
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Which eye do you tie your leader to while rigged that way , hook end or empty side ?
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mojoe
that is a good tip that I will try. Here's another, I have had some luck putting the jig down to what I estimate is the right depth and leaving it in the rod holder in slightly wavey conditions. May be old news to you guys but I just came across this by acident when I had to put the rod down to doing something else
Thanks hope it helps you! That is an excellent tip you put thanks!




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Which eye do you tie your leader to while rigged that way , hook end or empty side ?
The leader goes tied to the split ring or solid ring.

Good luck out there guys!
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mojoe View Post
that is a good tip that I will try. Here's another, I have had some luck putting the jig down to what I estimate is the right depth and leaving it in the rod holder in slightly wavey conditions. May be old news to you guys but I just came across this by acident when I had to put the rod down to doing something else
It works very well if u let it off the outrigger while chunking and let it bob up and down towards the bottom.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by proline16

It works very well if u let it off the outrigger while chunking and let it bob up and down towards the bottom.
Ah man that was this weeks tip LOL oh well I'll post it before the weekend anyways :p hahahahahaha
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Originally Posted by amarcafina View Post
Which eye do you tie your leader to while rigged that way , hook end or empty side ?
I think Wellcraft25 is tying his leader to the hook side or head side of the jig. I do not recommend using the floss or rubber band on the jigs. By placing floss or a rubber band around the jigs with the assist hook, you defeat the purpose of the jig. That purpose is to flutter on the way down and entice fish to strike. The Japanese believe that predatory fish attack the head or gut area of the prey. The head is where the assist hook has been placed on most jigs. Assist hooks don't improve the action of the jig. When the jig descends, the assist hook folds up against the leader out of the strike zone of the jig. So if your target fish primarily hits on the descent, then place another assist hook at the bottom of the jig the tail side. This is why there are 2 places (head side and tail side) on all butterfly jigs to attach assist hooks and why my jigs come rigged with split rings both the head side and the tail side of my jigs. See pic below. Traditional bottom hooks foul the sea floor much more losing jigs. Fish like Dogtooth Tuna are more tail biters so a tail placed treble hook is preferred instead of an assist hook. The placement comes down to what kind of fish are you targeting and personal preference.



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Thanks hope it helps you! That is an excellent tip you put thanks!



The leader goes tied to the split ring or solid ring. WRONG!!! WRONG!!!

Good luck out there guys!
You always tie the leader to the SOLID RING. The benefit to these connections is you never need to re tie. You just take the jig off the split ring and change it out with the split ring pliers. Simple, easy, and quick to do. It can be a pain in the ass and take much more time to re-tie while the fish are biting or in rough seas. This is why the jigs have split rings so the angler can change to preferred color quickly.

Pic Below: Solid ring to split ring to jig with assist hooks going on solid ring


You do not want to tie your leader to the spilt ring because:
1. You can get shearing of the line with the metal ends on the spilt ring. See pic below. There are NO jagged ends on a solid ring so no shearing of the line can occur.



2. If you tie to the split ring, now you can not change your jig quickly with a pair of spilt ring pliers and you have to re-tie your terminal connection. This wastes valuable fishing time. Hope all this info helps everyone on there jig setups. If you have any other questions please PM, or e-mail ([email protected]) me.

Wellcraft25: Maybe next time before you start a thread on Jigging Tips you learn the basics of jigging.
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Anteater it seems you have a little problem with my new business. This tip has been used by me and many captains around the world for years it serves one purpose only and is not meant for fishing all day with. Moreover I am yet to lose a fish by tying off to the split ring, will i always have my jigs this way probably not but it does not mean it is because of your above mentioned post. I would advise you to learn to think outside the box and learn other fishing techniques.

I do not go around and post advertising messages on your threads nor attack your rigs, if you like to run your business like most political advertising now a days then so be it but I run my business on customer service and the product it's self.

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Do most people tie the jig to straight braid or use a mono or flouro shock leader. How long a leader, and LB test do you use and what kind of knots are best.
Thanks
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Fellas,

By all accounts you both make fine jigs. Please don't turn this into a competition. There are some forums I visit that are just rediculous with the amount of petty bashing that goes on. Please don't let this be one of them.
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Originally Posted by Slidellkid View Post
Fellas,
By all accounts you both make fine jigs. Please don't turn this into a competition. There are some forums I visit that are just rediculous with the amount of petty bashing that goes on. Please don't let this be one of them.
hey Slidellkid that is far from my intentions if you go back and look at all my post you will never see me doing what anteater has done here. I believe the world holds enough people for any business to live. Thank you for your post brother

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Do most people tie the jig to straight braid or use a mono or flouro shock leader. How long a leader, and LB test do you use and what kind of knots are best.
Thanks
i rig with mono leader usually around 10ft of 50-80lbs and i use an improved clinch knot
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Originally Posted by wellcraft25 View Post
Anteater it seems you have a little problem with my new business. This tip has been used by me and many captains around the world for years it serves one purpose only and is not meant for fishing all day with. Moreover I am yet to lose a fish by tying off to the split ring, will i always have my jigs this way probably not but it does not mean it is because of your above mentioned post. I would advise you to learn to think outside the box and learn other fishing techniques.

I do not go around and post advertising messages on your threads nor attack your rigs, if you like to run your business like most political advertising now a days then so be it but I run my business on customer service and the product it's self.
I have no problem with your business. It can only make our businesses better. It can lead to healthy competition, innovation, and better products and prices for our customers. This is capitalism at its best. I have never said anything negative about your jigs, nor will I. I am sorry I offended you with my post. It could have been worded better.
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Originally Posted by anteater25 View Post
I have no problem with your business. It can only make our businesses better. It can lead to healthy competition, innovation, and better products and prices for our customers. This is capitalism at its best. I have never said anything negative about your jigs, nor will I. I am sorry I offended you with my post. It could have been worded better.
Thank you for the reply and apology hope we can help each other out in the future


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Let me ask this about the tip. Yes, if the hook is wrapped it might help catch fish that hit on the decent, but if no fish hit on the way down, what is the impact of having the hook wrapped u like that for fish that hit on the retrieve? Is this only good for fish that hit on the way down?
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:52 AM
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Anteater,

Nice post. Heck, you're such a nice guy I bet you would take me out in Venice and personnally show me how to use those Anteater jigs!!!!!!!!!.......right?

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Originally Posted by Slidellkid
Let me ask this about the tip. Yes, if the hook is wrapped it might help catch fish that hit on the decent, but if no fish hit on the way down, what is the impact of having the hook wrapped u like that for fish that hit on the retrieve? Is this only good for fish that hit on the way down?
If a fish hits as you are jigging the lure up then he will get hooked and the rubber bands will break off and that's it easy peasy.

The point of the tip is for those moments were it seems you are constantly getting hit on the way down and missing the hits.
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