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Old 09-17-2020, 02:26 PM
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Went down after the storm. Finger piers are toast, fuel pier is gone. Boats sunk. Our boat in dry storage seems to be fine but I can’t lay eyes on it. Seems to be a week or two until I may be able to even get it out and onto a trailer. Considering the immensity of the storm I will consider myself and my wife fortunate.
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Did the mermaid make it through?
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They located the "Lady in the Lake" submerged under sunken boats and said after the salvage operation she will be repaired and put back in place
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Did the museum of old outboards make it through? Not sure everyone even knows it's down there. They have a beautiful collection of antique outboards restored and on display. It would be a shame if they were damaged or blown out during the storm!
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How did the dinosaurs and Bamahenge hold up?
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Seeing all those boats on the bottom is heart breaking. Were those big sporties not able to be moved? Seems enough is invested in them to do whatever it takes to get them down the coast in one direction or another.
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Originally Posted by pooldoo73 View Post
Seeing all those boats on the bottom is heart breaking. Were those big sporties not able to be moved? Seems enough is invested in them to do whatever it takes to get them down the coast in one direction or another.
Our insurance carrier has a standard that requires us to submit an annual risk plan and also requires that the boat to be moved at least 100 nm from the projected landfall of any named storm 48 hours before the projected landfall.

With Sally, the company notified us on Saturday evening to move the boat ASAP. It pays for the cost of repositioning, but it requires that the boat be manned and ready for movement after repositioning (and doesn’t pay for this).

The underwriters have told me that their standards are based on the NWS’s typical location and intensity errors. “We don’t want a wobble to slam us with losses. We plan on owners taking 8 to 10 hours to move a sportfisherman 100 miles. If an owner doesn’t move the boat on request, we’ll cancel as soon as we legally can.”



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Seeing all those boats on the bottom is heart breaking. Were those big sporties not able to be moved? Seems enough is invested in them to do whatever it takes to get them down the coast in one direction or another.
If they were watching the same forecast as me, up until late Monday it was to hit west of Pascagoula. It was only apparent Tuesday afternoon that it shiftedEast and continued to do so throughout the night. I know one thing, if another storm comes close again that boat is going on the trailer and we are going as far north as possible. I’ve dealt with a lot of these storms but this is the first time I’ve seen one do this. I’ll chalk it up to my one freebie.
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I'm not suggesting any of these owners did anything wrong. They likely can't go out and buy a replacement boat this week anyway because one is likely not available even if money was no object. It has to be heartbreaking for these guys to see these photos also. Just asking because I don't even know anyone that CAN have a boat like this. Apparently even some of these 60+ footers don't have full time crews.
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Seeing all those boats on the bottom is heart breaking. Were those big sporties not able to be moved? Seems enough is invested in them to do whatever it takes to get them down the coast in one direction or another.

we were forecast to be on the edge of a 70 MPH wind storm up until around 1 am , so most of us natives were expecting 45-65 MPH with the eye crossing about 30-40 miles north of Barbers when we retired for the night
at 1 am the forecast was changed

we got 90-110 MPH for 4 hours solid as the storm almost stopped on top of us , moving at just 2 mph it beat the shit out of us

the tide was 12 ft at Barbers, the floating docks floated up until the leverage on the piling was so great it broke the concrete piling
thus the floating docks are piled up against the ship store

had the forecast been correct it would have been a minor event and preparations were made according to the forecast
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Barber marina is one of those that you think is safe, even had mine there for some storms and insurance was okay with it. The surge was just too much and lifted the piers over the concrete post, Wharf was okay due to distance from the pass and taller post.
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What we all need to remember is that Congress, successive administrations, and the NOAA/NWS bureaucracy have refused to fund and deploy real-time information and alerting and additional local sensors and human meterologists in favor of their centralized, model-based stuff -- including overreliance on mesoscale models (like GFS) which are not capable of accuracy in the terminal phases of tropical events and underfunding of development of some tools that are.

The NWS has made progress -- in relative terms, but it's not enough for us to bet the boat or the farm on with respect to either landfall or intensity.
One of the few things that our insurance carrier agree on is; boat is relocated into safe anchorage (and ready to be repositioned again) not less than 100 nm away from projected landfall at least 24 hours before projected landfall.

We are all victims of Cantore and Abrams -- who have no skin in the game -- giving us the impression of certainty when the reality is otherwise.


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I hope everyone gets everything sorted out in all 3 Gulf coast areas that have taken hits this year.
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its going to be a long recovery for the boating community, we were luck and our boats were safe in the rack at Lost Key. but the marina is toast so as soon as we can extract them we have a slip rented in Panama city for the rest of the year. just like when Ivan came through its going to take years for the boating community to recover from this one. Even if all the marinas get checks to rebuild soon there is a wood shortage from Covid shutdown so it going to take a while.

the marina devastation is terrible, but the people down here have done it before and most will come back and rebuild. i live in Mobile and we thought even the days of that we were going to take the hardest hit. Sally took a hard right, i never even took the patio furniture off the Patio on the 10th floor at Lost Key because i thought they would be out of the wind field and surge
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Originally Posted by bhales View Post
its going to be a long recovery for the boating community, we were luck and our boats were safe in the rack at Lost Key. but the marina is toast so as soon as we can extract them we have a slip rented in Panama city for the rest of the year. just like when Ivan came through its going to take years for the boating community to recover from this one. Even if all the marinas get checks to rebuild soon there is a wood shortage from Covid shutdown so it going to take a while.

the marina devastation is terrible, but the people down here have done it before and most will come back and rebuild. i live in Mobile and we thought even the days of that we were going to take the hardest hit. Sally took a hard right, i never even took the patio furniture off the Patio on the 10th floor at Lost Key because i thought they would be out of the wind field and surge
Speaking of lost Key did they steal your electronics??
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no, the YF was actually in the shop getting new ones installed when they got hit the second time. and my bayboat wasnt there, but it has Raymarine so it wouldnt have anyway
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How high was the surge in the OB area?
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How high was the surge in the OB area?
Don't know personally; moved boats to Panama City and Destin, but here is what the NWS now says about Sally wind speeds, surge, and rainfall:

https://www.weather.gov/mob/sally

NWS says "More coming soon once the storm surge surveys are complete..."
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took these screen shots from Weather Under Ground before we turned in for the night at around 7:30 PM
we expected winds up to 75 MPH in our area.

unless we were were pummeled by dozens and dozens of tornadoes all night I expect the wind speed estimates will change to 100-120 MPH
we got a direct hit by Ivan on Sept 16 2004 and by Fredric Sept 12 1979
the damage in South Baldwin County Alabama is much worse than Ivan or Fredric , the tree damage is mind boggling , the waterfront damage is unbelievable





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