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Old 07-28-2020, 08:54 AM
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Looks like we may finally have a fishable weekend for boats smaller than a crewboat.

I'm planning a trip out of Fourchon targeting tilefish. My previous 3 trips have yeilded other deepwater species, but no tiles. Can anyone give insight on the types of spots I should be targeting or any other info? My transducer will give me depth, but not much else in 1,000' water. I bought CMOR map card, so I've got some ability to use topo to target specific types of spots.

Any info appreciated.
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Can't speak for La, but we catch them between 450 and 800' on the west coast of FL... generally, on mud bottom.
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We find the tilefish from 700-1,000 feet over here at of Destin. We look for areas in that depth range that are vast flat bottom with very small little ridges on the CMOR chart. We always make sure that we use a light and squid seems to work a lot better than any other bait. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Catspearos View Post
Looks like we may finally have a fishable weekend for boats smaller than a crewboat.

I'm planning a trip out of Fourchon targeting tilefish. My previous 3 trips have yeilded other deepwater species, but no tiles. Can anyone give insight on the types of spots I should be targeting or any other info? My transducer will give me depth, but not much else in 1,000' water. I bought CMOR map card, so I've got some ability to use topo to target specific types of spots.

Any info appreciated.
Catspearos,

Looking at the navigation function of your MFD, scroll through the charts using the zoom in - zoom out function. On one or maybe a couple of the charts you should see some capital letters out in the fishing area that will give you a general idea of the bottom substrate ie S=sand; M=mud, R=rocks, Sn=shingle, etc.

Once you find the chart scale level that provides this data, focus your attention on the areas marked with a letter M. You will begin prospecting those areas paying close attention to what those areas look like on your bottom machine, once you get out there. I took photos to remember. That will get you in the ball park.

Once you get some fish and capture what your bottom machine is looking like where you hooked 'em, you're off and running to go find your own areas.

Don't forget your deep drop lights !

Best of luck, let us know how you do.

Cheers, T.

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Originally Posted by trejsic.mejsic View Post
Catspearos,

Looking at the navigation function of your MFD, scroll through the charts using the zoom in - zoom out function. On one or maybe a couple of the charts you should see some capital letters out in the fishing area that will give you a general idea of the bottom substrate ie S=sand; M=mud, R=rocks, Sn=shingle, etc.

Once you find the chart scale level that provides this data, focus your attention on the areas marked with a letter M. You will begin prospecting those areas paying close attention to what those areas look like on your bottom machine, once you get out there. I took photos to remember. That will get you in the ball park.

Once you get some fish and capture what your bottom machine is looking like where you hooked 'em, you're off and running to go find your own areas.

Don't forget your deep drop lights !

Best of luck, let us know how you do.

Cheers, T.
What MFD are you using? I am almost certain my new Garmin MFD does NOT have any kind of feature that identifies bottom substrate. Maybe its a buried setting that I have yet to find and turn on, but still...
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Old 07-29-2020, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Southern_Fish View Post
What MFD are you using? I am almost certain my new Garmin MFD does NOT have any kind of feature that identifies bottom substrate. Maybe its a buried setting that I have yet to find and turn on, but still...
SF,

What you are looking for (those capital letters reflecting the bottom characteristics) is not a function of what your MFD is capable of - rather it is what info is presented by the chart data (vector or raster).

I am not positive, but I believe the bottom characteristics data I initially used was raster chart data on my Simrad using an Insight preloaded chart.

I hope this is helpful, good luck.
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Here's the verdict from the weekend - seas were as forecasted or better. Quite comfortable running at full cruise speed. Weather was beautiful, water was as dirty as expected.

5 hours of deep dropping, one bite, no fish. Stayed in the MC area.

Managed to pull a nice box of snapper together without losing any to the tax man. Nice surprise for us.

Lastly, many thanks to the fellow that flagged me down at Ewing Bank 305 to tell me he found my bean bad on the road...last year. I was able to retrieve it and the Mrs. was very happy.

All in all a great trip, just no luck on the sea monsters of the deep. Maybe next time...
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Originally Posted by Catspearos View Post
5 hours of deep dropping, one bite, no fish. Stayed in the MC area..
I wouldn't spend that much time in one area without some better results.

Did you make sure the bait was staying in touch with the bottom? Drop, feel the weight hit the mud, and then bounce along? If you aren't attentive, it is very easy to have the bait a few feet off the bottom and not realize it.

Awesome about the bean bag, gotta love that!
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Focus on deeper water 800ft+. Look for rock formations and try to find the edge where it goes to mud. Most of the golden tiles will be on the muddy side. The further you get from fourchon, deep dropping is typically better. I’m sure there are some fish to be caught in the canyon but you have to think that is the most targeted area. A lot of our deep drop trips we will run further than we do tuna fishing.
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800'-1000' mud flat bottom. You do not want any structure. We went yesterday and caught 10. We were in 980'-1000'. We were using whole squid and forgot our lights but didnt seem to matter yesterday. Your machine should have contour lines on it so you should look for lines with the most distance between them. I am new at this but this strategy works for me. We are fishing out of pensacola. Good luck it is fun.
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Originally Posted by Helmraiser View Post
800'-1000' mud flat bottom. You do not want any structure. We went yesterday and caught 10. We were in 980'-1000'. We were using whole squid and forgot our lights but didnt seem to matter yesterday. Your machine should have contour lines on it so you should look for lines with the most distance between them. I am new at this but this strategy works for me. We are fishing out of pensacola. Good luck it is fun.
Concur. Good advise, that.

I'm curious how deep OP was fishing for 5 hours ?
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We ranged from 750-1100. MC changes depth very quickly in spots, so its easy to cover a variety of depths over a few mile drift.
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As you are drifting you'll know you are in muddy bottom when your weight sticks in the bottom, rod bends as boat moves, and then suddenly pops out.
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Originally Posted by Catspearos View Post
We ranged from 750-1100. MC changes depth very quickly in spots, so its easy to cover a variety of depths over a few mile drift.
You really don't want that for tiles. Find a flat deep area. There are a couple areas like that in MC where we've caught a few.
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All these Cajuns.. lol.. had a "moment" there.. heh. Went to Broadmoor HS for my junior year

Anyway, I am so looking forward to taking a trip to LA to go fish out of NO one day.Just had to jump in and say that :P

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Originally Posted by hthoang View Post
You really don't want that for tiles. Find a flat deep area. There are a couple areas like that in MC where we've caught a few.
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