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Jackfish2800 06-23-2020 12:43 AM

Can you carry a gun on a boat
 
After all this talk about “private numbers” there is no such thing as any wildlife officer to explain it to you, and these nut jobs I am wondering should I start carrying a gun with me on my boat. What are the rules and laws on this?

Also, is it illegal to shot a hooked Cobia? When I was younger everyone had a 22 on board to shot big Cobia or blacktips so they wouldn’t tear your boat up. I never did but I had a Cobia. do about 200 dollars worth of damage one time, and big black tip go right for my fuel line once so I carried a bang stick after that from one of my diver buddies. (Never used it?

Unevensteven 06-23-2020 03:02 AM

Depends on your state. In SC if you can own a firearm in your home, you can carry one in your vehicle (car/boat). I can't answer about shooting fish. I just gaff them and toss them into my cooler. Or in the case of sharks, let them keep the hook by cutting the line.

twindiesel 06-23-2020 06:04 AM

I don't know the laws but I do know last year about this time of the year there were 2 boats arguing over a snapper spot and the boat with younger kids about 25 years old pulled an AR type riffle out while the 2 boats were arguing. Wasn't long afterwards the coast guard was there. Was actually shocked how quick the coasties got 12 miles from the pass.

USCG Safe Boating D8 06-23-2020 07:14 AM

Back in my active duty days I worked a case where a man brandished a firearm in a squabble over a "private" spot. That man is a felon now and cannot legally possess a gun. There is no such thing as a private spot. When the reef material hits the bottom it is public. I am not about to get into an armed confrontation over a spot. If someone becomes threatening, I'll leave and deal with it later.

From a federal standpoint there are no laws that preclude a legal person from having a legal gun on board their vessel.


dryhydro 06-23-2020 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by USCG Safe Boating D8 (Post 13782748)
Back in my active duty days I worked a case where a man brandished a firearm in a squabble over a "private" spot. That man is a felon now and cannot legally possess a gun. There is no such thing as a private spot. When the reef material hits the bottom it is public. I am not about to get into an armed confrontation over a spot. If someone becomes threatening, I'll leave and deal with it later.

From a federal standpoint there are no laws that preclude a legal person from having a legal gun on board their vessel.

What he said...
^^^^^

mbbford 06-23-2020 08:22 AM

I read the rules on shooting a hooked fish at one point. In Louisiana, as long as you are doing it to subdue the fish, you're good.
I still don't shoot when I'm at an operational platform. Not trying to piss anyone off or get the coast guard called on me.

twindiesel 06-23-2020 08:26 AM

It sounded like it escalated pretty quickly over the radio. The older guy and his wife were fishing. A few 25 year olds pull up on them and of course the wife can't keep her mouth shut so she cussed the kids out. From first call to coasties they were on the scene within an hour. I'm guessing they had a boat in the area.

dryhydro 06-23-2020 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Jackfish2800 (Post 13782198)
After all this talk about “private numbers” there is no such thing as any wildlife officer to explain it to you, and these nut jobs I am wondering should I start carrying a gun with me on my boat. What are the rules and laws on this?

Also, is it illegal to shot a hooked Cobia? When I was younger everyone had a 22 on board to shot big Cobia or blacktips so they wouldn’t tear your boat up. I never did but I had a Cobia. do about 200 dollars worth of damage one time, and big black tip go right for my fuel line once so I carried a bang stick after that from one of my diver buddies. (Never used it?

I NEVER leave home without one!!!:thumbsup:

Bison 06-23-2020 09:14 AM

Guns and Boats
 
Please explain to me a situation, in US waters, by which anyone would employ a deadly weapon, loaded firearm while boating, especially, against another human. As stated in an earlier post sharks can be released with the hook; other fished gaffed and/or batted in the head before being boated. I have been boating since nine years of age on the Great Lakes, Mississippi River, Lake of the Ozark's, New York Finger Lakes, Erie Canal, British Virgin Islands, the Grenadines and now the Cape Fear Region of North Carolina, and at no time in 59 years of boating experiences did I ever feel the need to carry a firearm on a vessel.

Why? Under what possible scenario would one feel in need or empowered to carry a firearm on a recreational boat? The only possible reason, I could envision “to be packing” would be while long distance cruising in international waters in the vicinity of a rogue nation, and even then one has to assume to be seriously out matched in fire power.

Even if you are an individual who does not share my perspective, regarding fire arms and boats, what do you think your fate would be in court, under existing social tensions, should your weapon discharge either on purpose or accidentally and injure or kill another person? Further, simply brandishing a weapon for whatever reason will most probably result, at minimum in court appearance of some variety.

It is my understanding of North Carolina regulation firearms are not allowed at State launching ramps.
Except where facilities are provided and approved uses are posted, it is unlawful to use any public fishing area for purposes other than fishing. All prohibited uses and activities shall be posted including possession of loaded firearms (except as allowed in Paragraph (b) of this Rule), swimming, launching or mooring jet skis or boats, skiing, building fires, operating concessions, or other activities not directly associated with fishing.

As the “Coastie” said, above, no Federal Law precludes possession of a firearm on a boat, but is there a risk worth the dangers? If you are compelled to carry a firearm on your boat ensure that if you are ever boarded by law enforcement or USCG that the very first thing you tell them is a firearm is on the vessel and its exact location.

bluffman2 06-23-2020 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Bison (Post 13783230)
Please explain to me a situation, in US waters, by which anyone would employ a deadly weapon, loaded firearm while boating, especially, against another human. As stated in an earlier post sharks can be released with the hook; other fished gaffed and/or batted in the head before being boated. I have been boating since nine years of age on the Great Lakes, Mississippi River, Lake of the Ozark's, New York Finger Lakes, Erie Canal, British Virgin Islands, the Grenadines and now the Cape Fear Region of North Carolina, and at no time in 59 years of boating experiences did I ever feel the need to carry a firearm on a vessel.

Why? Under what possible scenario would one feel in need or empowered to carry a firearm on a recreational boat? The only possible reason, I could envision “to be packing” would be while long distance cruising in international waters in the vicinity of a rogue nation, and even then one has to assume to be seriously out matched in fire power.

Even if you are an individual who does not share my perspective, regarding fire arms and boats, what do you think your fate would be in court, under existing social tensions, should your weapon discharge either on purpose or accidentally and injure or kill another person? Further, simply brandishing a weapon for whatever reason will most probably result, at minimum in court appearance of some variety.

It is my understanding of North Carolina regulation firearms are not allowed at State launching ramps.
Except where facilities are provided and approved uses are posted, it is unlawful to use any public fishing area for purposes other than fishing. All prohibited uses and activities shall be posted including possession of loaded firearms (except as allowed in Paragraph (b) of this Rule), swimming, launching or mooring jet skis or boats, skiing, building fires, operating concessions, or other activities not directly associated with fishing.

As the “Coastie” said, above, no Federal Law precludes possession of a firearm on a boat, but is there a risk worth the dangers? If you are compelled to carry a firearm on your boat ensure that if you are ever boarded by law enforcement or USCG that the very first thing you tell them is a firearm is on the vessel and its exact location.

2ND AMENDMENT nuff said

Jeepman 06-23-2020 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by Bison (Post 13783230)
Please explain to me a situation, in US waters, by which anyone would employ a deadly weapon, loaded firearm while boating, especially, against another human. As stated in an earlier post sharks can be released with the hook; other fished gaffed and/or batted in the head before being boated. I have been boating since nine years of age on the Great Lakes, Mississippi River, Lake of the Ozark's, New York Finger Lakes, Erie Canal, British Virgin Islands, the Grenadines and now the Cape Fear Region of North Carolina, and at no time in 59 years of boating experiences did I ever feel the need to carry a firearm on a vessel.
.

Fish an area with shared border of Mexico and your views would change. Think the one that got the most press in recent times was the couple killed on Lake Falcon. Mexican Pirates is a thing....


HTJ 06-23-2020 09:49 AM

I only carry when I'm awake;)

Jackfish2800 06-23-2020 09:52 AM

People are nuts??
 
I have had several buddies who are not even serious fisherman get into heated conversations with people, particularly assholes from Zekes Marina over so called “private spots”.

In one case there was was a fatality as the charter captain (from Zekes of course) tried to ram my friend, (whose family has had a place in Josephine for 100 years, grew up on the water, and is an excellent boatsman (not a tourist) but not really a big time fisherman. He guy went nuts after he made the mistake of trolling too close to a charter boats private spot. He said he was 100s if yards from the boat. He started cussing like crazy, and whipped his boat around cut off my buddies lines, then he whipped around again so hard passenger was thrown off and killed.

I know at least 12 people that have had guns pulled on them, shots fired across the bow, rammed, heavy weights chucked at them, all lines cut etc over this stupid “private reef” shit in Alabama. Someone will be killed again within the next 5 years easily.

This shit needs to stop, the castle doctrine in bama, Florida and Mississippi allowed one to use deadly force in the event you feel your life is being threatened at home, in your car, boat, ATV, tractor, probably riding a horse etc. So if one of these Dekes Marine idiots runs into the kid with the AR-15, and tries some of this crap and gets sprayed a few times or killed, if it’s in state waters, they will not even send it to grand jury. I have seen the cases.

i don’t know how you carry a weapon on a boat without it being concealed. But everyone with boat over 40 feet in the 80s and 90s did it for fear of drug pirates.

Alabama Wildlife and Fisheries needs to send everyone with a saltwater license a warning on this and written explanation you have no exclusive rights to anything on the bottom of the gulf. There are no private reefs. Anyone freaking out over this, and threatening people should have their numbers publicly posted and their fishing license suspended, at a minimum. That would stop a lot of if. some of the deke freaks should have had all their licenses pulled long ago.

But they will wait until someone is killed first, or a big shootout occurs.

This foolishness needs to stop.


HTJ 06-23-2020 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Jeepman (Post 13783362)
Fish an area with shared border of Mexico and your views would change. Think the one that got the most press in recent times was the couple killed on Lake Falcon. Mexican Pirates is a thing....

This is completely real, I trailer to SPI every so often and the arsenal gets augmented.

dryhydro 06-23-2020 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Bison (Post 13783230)
Please explain to me a situation, in US waters, by which anyone would employ a deadly weapon, loaded firearm while boating, especially, against another human. As stated in an earlier post sharks can be released with the hook; other fished gaffed and/or batted in the head before being boated. I have been boating since nine years of age on the Great Lakes, Mississippi River, Lake of the Ozark's, New York Finger Lakes, Erie Canal, British Virgin Islands, the Grenadines and now the Cape Fear Region of North Carolina, and at no time in 59 years of boating experiences did I ever feel the need to carry a firearm on a vessel.

Why? Under what possible scenario would one feel in need or empowered to carry a firearm on a recreational boat? The only possible reason, I could envision “to be packing” would be while long distance cruising in international waters in the vicinity of a rogue nation, and even then one has to assume to be seriously out matched in fire power.

Even if you are an individual who does not share my perspective, regarding fire arms and boats, what do you think your fate would be in court, under existing social tensions, should your weapon discharge either on purpose or accidentally and injure or kill another person? Further, simply brandishing a weapon for whatever reason will most probably result, at minimum in court appearance of some variety.

It is my understanding of North Carolina regulation firearms are not allowed at State launching ramps.
Except where facilities are provided and approved uses are posted, it is unlawful to use any public fishing area for purposes other than fishing. All prohibited uses and activities shall be posted including possession of loaded firearms (except as allowed in Paragraph (b) of this Rule), swimming, launching or mooring jet skis or boats, skiing, building fires, operating concessions, or other activities not directly associated with fishing.

As the “Coastie” said, above, no Federal Law precludes possession of a firearm on a boat, but is there a risk worth the dangers? If you are compelled to carry a firearm on your boat ensure that if you are ever boarded by law enforcement or USCG that the very first thing you tell them is a firearm is on the vessel and its exact location.

Ya ain't from around here are ya???

Captain Crispy 06-23-2020 11:39 AM

FYI- the "I read it on the Hull Truth" defense doesn't work in court. No matter what you read here, verify it with official sources.

Jeepman 06-23-2020 12:03 PM

Curious how some people think Duck hunting works, and popular TV shows where people actually shoot gators from boats.... of course you can carry a gun on a boat

N2opasser2003 06-23-2020 04:38 PM

I wanna carry my shotgun offshore to shoot flying fish. Anyone ever try this to sharpen your shooting skills.

Still Stoked 06-23-2020 04:41 PM

My choice for busy weekends...



HTJ 06-23-2020 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by N2opasser2003 (Post 13784970)
I wanna carry my shotgun offshore to shoot flying fish. Anyone ever try this to sharpen your shooting skills.

Do they have Bud Light logos on them? Asking for a friend


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