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Old 08-29-2020, 05:02 PM
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I was fishing a local tournament this morning in Mobile Bay, on a friends boat, and we were trying to catch some fish behind the shrimp boats. After hitting several boats and catching a good many fish we ended up stopping at a small shrimp boat (looked like a live bait boat) on the way back in to see if we could cull our smallest one. We fished this boat for 15 minutes and caught a couple off it without any issues.

Well after I made one particular cast I heard the "captain" say something about "splash me" and when I turned and looked up he had something in his hand that he was setting down on the console and I heard him say something like "shoot you". I had absolutely no idea what he said/was talking about as I made one more cast. My buddy slowly started easing away from his boat and I turned and asked him what did this guy say? He replied "that guy said if you splashed him again he was going to shoot you". I said "what did he mean, splash him?" My buddy said "I don't know". We continued to slowly pull away from his boat. I asked my buddy "was that a gun in his hand?" and he said "yeah, it was in a holster and he just held held it up to show us".

"Apparently" when my ladyfish head hit the water next to his boat it must have made a small splash and got some water on him, I had no idea and would've happily apologized if I knew I got him wet. The ironic part is both him and us drove through the middle of a dense rainstorm 20 minutes earlier and all of us looked like we just climbed out of the water, we were completely soaked.

Well, I fully understand that those shrimpers are out there trying to make a very hard living so whenever they ask me not to fish I tell them no problem and go to the next boat. it's the right thing to do. (That has only happened once out of around 30 boats I've fished). I'd say 95% of them welcome you to fish by them. Some even show you where the fish are and chum them up for you. These guys didn't say a single word to us the entire time we fished by them until the point of pulling out the gun and he never even asked us to leave, not once. This is why I was dumbfounded when he said what I thought he said.

I try to take the high road when I can overcome the urge to be a smart a$$ so I just told the two guys on the shrimp boat that I hope they have a very nice day and we pulled away from them. He just looked at my funny like that was the last thing he was expecting me to say (probably expected a few expletives and a flip of the bird). After driving off and thinking about what just happened is when it really clicked that the "captain" had displayed a firearm (even though it was in holster) and made a threat to my life.... over accidentally "splashing him" (I suppose).

We were about 200yds away and I told my buddy that I think we should to drive back to their boat, get their registration number and call the coast guard or marine police and inform them about what happened. He really didn't want any part of that as we were heading to the weigh-in and just brushed it off as some old grumpy captain that's probably going broke shrimping, being a d!ckhead.... which is true and honestly I can't say I blame my buddy much but I really wish we would've done that. It just pissed me off that he did that without ever asking us to leave first. I'm almost certain we'll see him tomorrow and I can get his numbers then but I don't feel good about reporting something a day late like that....

So that is my first experience of having a gun "pulled on me" while on the water and it happened for practically no reason at all.... just thought I would share for those who think these kinds of things never happen.

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Old 08-29-2020, 09:56 PM
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I was fishing out of Dauphin Island this year during snapper season when a coast guard boat pulled up and boarded my boat. The guys were very polite and after telling me to prepare to be boarded, asked if I had a gun on the boat. I told him yes, and without moving from where I was standing, pointed and told him which compartment it was in. He said, "ok thank you, I'll take possession of it when I board, remove the clip and keep it until I prepare to exit your boat." He did just that, asked for my permit, all my other paperwork related to the boat, fishing, etc., and as he prepared to exit, handed me the gun back and asked me not to put the clip back in until he was on board his vessel. It was not a tense conversation or experience in any way and the guys were very professional and nice.
Old 08-30-2020, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mdees88 View Post
I was fishing a local tournament this morning in Mobile Bay, on a friends boat, and we were trying to catch some fish behind the shrimp boats. After hitting several boats and catching a good many fish we ended up stopping at a small shrimp boat (looked like a live bait boat) on the way back in to see if we could cull our smallest one. We fished this boat for 15 minutes and caught a couple off it without any issues.

Well after I made one particular cast I heard the "captain" say something about "splash me" and when I turned and looked up he had something in his hand that he was setting down on the console and I heard him say something like "shoot you". I had absolutely no idea what he said/was talking about as I made one more cast. My buddy slowly started easing away from his boat and I turned and asked him what did this guy say? He replied "that guy said if you splashed him again he was going to shoot you". I said "what did he mean, splash him?" My buddy said "I don't know". We continued to slowly pull away from his boat. I asked my buddy "was that a gun in his hand?" and he said "yeah, it was in a holster and he just held held it up to show us".

"Apparently" when my ladyfish head hit the water next to his boat it must have made a small splash and got some water on him, I had no idea and would've happily apologized if I knew I got him wet. The ironic part is both him and us drove through the middle of a dense rainstorm 20 minutes earlier and all of us looked like we just climbed out of the water, we were completely soaked.

Well, I fully understand that those shrimpers are out there trying to make a very hard living so whenever they ask me not to fish I tell them no problem and go to the next boat. it's the right thing to do. (That has only happened once out of around 30 boats I've fished). I'd say 95% of them welcome you to fish by them. Some even show you where the fish are and chum them up for you. These guys didn't say a single word to us the entire time we fished by them until the point of pulling out the gun and he never even asked us to leave, not once. This is why I was dumbfounded when he said what I thought he said.

I try to take the high road when I can overcome the urge to be a smart a$$ so I just told the two guys on the shrimp boat that I hope they have a very nice day and we pulled away from them. He just looked at my funny like that was the last thing he was expecting me to say (probably expected a few expletives and a flip of the bird). After driving off and thinking about what just happened is when it really clicked that the "captain" had displayed a firearm (even though it was in holster) and made a threat to my life.... over accidentally "splashing him" (I suppose).

We were about 200yds away and I told my buddy that I think we should to drive back to their boat, get their registration number and call the coast guard or marine police and inform them about what happened. He really didn't want any part of that as we were heading to the weigh-in and just brushed it off as some old grumpy captain that's probably going broke shrimping, being a d!ckhead.... which is true and honestly I can't say I blame my buddy much but I really wish we would've done that. It just pissed me off that he did that without ever asking us to leave first. I'm almost certain we'll see him tomorrow and I can get his numbers then but I don't feel good about reporting something a day late like that....

So that is my first experience of having a gun "pulled on me" while on the water and it happened for practically no reason at all.... just thought I would share for those who think these kinds of things never happen.
Thanks for a great illustration of just how close the dark side of human nature lurks about us on a daily basis.

Of course you will never convince the pollyannas among us.

To each his own and God bless the Founding Fathers and their wisdom for providing the 2nd Amendment.

Old 08-30-2020, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mdees88 View Post
I was fishing a local tournament this morning in Mobile Bay, on a friends boat, and we were trying to catch some fish behind the shrimp boats. After hitting several boats and catching a good many fish we ended up stopping at a small shrimp boat (looked like a live bait boat) on the way back in to see if we could cull our smallest one. We fished this boat for 15 minutes and caught a couple off it without any issues.

Well after I made one particular cast I heard the "captain" say something about "splash me" and when I turned and looked up he had something in his hand that he was setting down on the console and I heard him say something like "shoot you". I had absolutely no idea what he said/was talking about as I made one more cast. My buddy slowly started easing away from his boat and I turned and asked him what did this guy say? He replied "that guy said if you splashed him again he was going to shoot you". I said "what did he mean, splash him?" My buddy said "I don't know". We continued to slowly pull away from his boat. I asked my buddy "was that a gun in his hand?" and he said "yeah, it was in a holster and he just held held it up to show us".

"Apparently" when my ladyfish head hit the water next to his boat it must have made a small splash and got some water on him, I had no idea and would've happily apologized if I knew I got him wet. The ironic part is both him and us drove through the middle of a dense rainstorm 20 minutes earlier and all of us looked like we just climbed out of the water, we were completely soaked.

Well, I fully understand that those shrimpers are out there trying to make a very hard living so whenever they ask me not to fish I tell them no problem and go to the next boat. it's the right thing to do. (That has only happened once out of around 30 boats I've fished). I'd say 95% of them welcome you to fish by them. Some even show you where the fish are and chum them up for you. These guys didn't say a single word to us the entire time we fished by them until the point of pulling out the gun and he never even asked us to leave, not once. This is why I was dumbfounded when he said what I thought he said.

I try to take the high road when I can overcome the urge to be a smart a$$ so I just told the two guys on the shrimp boat that I hope they have a very nice day and we pulled away from them. He just looked at my funny like that was the last thing he was expecting me to say (probably expected a few expletives and a flip of the bird). After driving off and thinking about what just happened is when it really clicked that the "captain" had displayed a firearm (even though it was in holster) and made a threat to my life.... over accidentally "splashing him" (I suppose).

We were about 200yds away and I told my buddy that I think we should to drive back to their boat, get their registration number and call the coast guard or marine police and inform them about what happened. He really didn't want any part of that as we were heading to the weigh-in and just brushed it off as some old grumpy captain that's probably going broke shrimping, being a d!ckhead.... which is true and honestly I can't say I blame my buddy much but I really wish we would've done that. It just pissed me off that he did that without ever asking us to leave first. I'm almost certain we'll see him tomorrow and I can get his numbers then but I don't feel good about reporting something a day late like that....

So that is my first experience of having a gun "pulled on me" while on the water and it happened for practically no reason at all.... just thought I would share for those who think these kinds of things never happen.
I won't by any means justify the captain's actions...but if you were casting close enough to splash his boat you deserved a spanking at the very least...

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Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
I won't by any means justify the captain's actions...hut if you erre dating close enough to splash his boat you deserved a spanking at the very least...
You're obviously very unfamiliar with how fishing these shrimp boats works and I won't hold that against you. You drive along side them while they're dragging their nets and cast your bait directly against the side of their boat because that's where the fish are. This is how it's done.

There will be a line of boats waiting to take your place as soon as you hook up. Almost every shrimp boat in the bay will have multiple boats fishing them. Because you are so close to the shrimp boats I respect anyone who doesn't want me fishing by them while they're working and will gladly leave and go to the next boat. But when done properly nobody gets in anyone's way. Most all of the shrimpers enjoy watching everyone fight the fish. They point to where the fish are, tell us how many they see and whether they are big or not.

Heck I've even had a guy tell me to come up against his boat and he grabbed my line and bait, walked to the corner of his boat and dropped it in a school of fish. So this is nothing like what you're thinking. But regardless the dude was a complete D bag and we didn't see him today because there are a bunch if storms in the bay.... we were able to cull our smallest fish from yesterday though.


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Originally Posted by mdees88 View Post
You're obviously very unfamiliar with how fishing these shrimp boats works and I won't hold that against you. You drive along side them while they're dragging their nets and cast your bait directly against the side of their boat because that's where the fish are. This is how it's done.

There will be a line of boats waiting to take your place as soon as you hook up. Almost every shrimp boat in the bay will have multiple boats fishing them. Because you are so close to the shrimp boats I respect anyone who doesn't want me fishing by them while they're working and will gladly leave and go to the next boat. But when done properly nobody gets in anyone's way. Most all of the shrimpers enjoy watching everyone fight the fish. They point to where the fish are, tell us how many they see and whether they are big or not.

Heck I've even had a guy tell me to come up against his boat and he grabbed my line and bait, walked to the corner of his boat and dropped it in a school of fish. So this is nothing like what you're thinking. But regardless the dude was a complete D bag and we didn't see him today because there are a bunch if storms in the bay.... we were able to cull our smallest fish from yesterday though.
wow...youre right...i had no idea...interesting...
Old 08-31-2020, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mdees88 View Post
I was fishing a local tournament this morning in Mobile Bay, on a friends boat, and we were trying to catch some fish behind the shrimp boats. After hitting several boats and catching a good many fish we ended up stopping at a small shrimp boat (looked like a live bait boat) on the way back in to see if we could cull our smallest one. We fished this boat for 15 minutes and caught a couple off it without any issues.

Well after I made one particular cast I heard the "captain" say something about "splash me" and when I turned and looked up he had something in his hand that he was setting down on the console and I heard him say something like "shoot you". I had absolutely no idea what he said/was talking about as I made one more cast. My buddy slowly started easing away from his boat and I turned and asked him what did this guy say? He replied "that guy said if you splashed him again he was going to shoot you". I said "what did he mean, splash him?" My buddy said "I don't know". We continued to slowly pull away from his boat. I asked my buddy "was that a gun in his hand?" and he said "yeah, it was in a holster and he just held held it up to show us".

"Apparently" when my ladyfish head hit the water next to his boat it must have made a small splash and got some water on him, I had no idea and would've happily apologized if I knew I got him wet. The ironic part is both him and us drove through the middle of a dense rainstorm 20 minutes earlier and all of us looked like we just climbed out of the water, we were completely soaked.

Well, I fully understand that those shrimpers are out there trying to make a very hard living so whenever they ask me not to fish I tell them no problem and go to the next boat. it's the right thing to do. (That has only happened once out of around 30 boats I've fished). I'd say 95% of them welcome you to fish by them. Some even show you where the fish are and chum them up for you. These guys didn't say a single word to us the entire time we fished by them until the point of pulling out the gun and he never even asked us to leave, not once. This is why I was dumbfounded when he said what I thought he said.

I try to take the high road when I can overcome the urge to be a smart a$$ so I just told the two guys on the shrimp boat that I hope they have a very nice day and we pulled away from them. He just looked at my funny like that was the last thing he was expecting me to say (probably expected a few expletives and a flip of the bird). After driving off and thinking about what just happened is when it really clicked that the "captain" had displayed a firearm (even though it was in holster) and made a threat to my life.... over accidentally "splashing him" (I suppose).

We were about 200yds away and I told my buddy that I think we should to drive back to their boat, get their registration number and call the coast guard or marine police and inform them about what happened. He really didn't want any part of that as we were heading to the weigh-in and just brushed it off as some old grumpy captain that's probably going broke shrimping, being a d!ckhead.... which is true and honestly I can't say I blame my buddy much but I really wish we would've done that. It just pissed me off that he did that without ever asking us to leave first. I'm almost certain we'll see him tomorrow and I can get his numbers then but I don't feel good about reporting something a day late like that....

So that is my first experience of having a gun "pulled on me" while on the water and it happened for practically no reason at all.... just thought I would share for those who think these kinds of things never happen.
Shrimpers can be grouchy at times, and gun play has happened several times over the years. Your story reminded me about the events in the link below

https://timeline.com/kkk-vietnamese-...m-43730353df06
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Originally Posted by Bison View Post
Please explain to me a situation, in US waters, by which anyone would employ a deadly weapon, loaded firearm while boating, especially, against another human. As stated in an earlier post sharks can be released with the hook; other fished gaffed and/or batted in the head before being boated. I have been boating since nine years of age on the Great Lakes, Mississippi River, Lake of the Ozark's, New York Finger Lakes, Erie Canal, British Virgin Islands, the Grenadines and now the Cape Fear Region of North Carolina, and at no time in 59 years of boating experiences did I ever feel the need to carry a firearm on a vessel.

Why? Under what possible scenario would one feel in need or empowered to carry a firearm on a recreational boat? The only possible reason, I could envision “to be packing” would be while long distance cruising in international waters in the vicinity of a rogue nation, and even then one has to assume to be seriously out matched in fire power.

Even if you are an individual who does not share my perspective, regarding fire arms and boats, what do you think your fate would be in court, under existing social tensions, should your weapon discharge either on purpose or accidentally and injure or kill another person? Further, simply brandishing a weapon for whatever reason will most probably result, at minimum in court appearance of some variety.

It is my understanding of North Carolina regulation firearms are not allowed at State launching ramps.
Except where facilities are provided and approved uses are posted, it is unlawful to use any public fishing area for purposes other than fishing. All prohibited uses and activities shall be posted including possession of loaded firearms (except as allowed in Paragraph (b) of this Rule), swimming, launching or mooring jet skis or boats, skiing, building fires, operating concessions, or other activities not directly associated with fishing.

As the “Coastie” said, above, no Federal Law precludes possession of a firearm on a boat, but is there a risk worth the dangers? If you are compelled to carry a firearm on your boat ensure that if you are ever boarded by law enforcement or USCG that the very first thing you tell them is a firearm is on the vessel and its exact location.
Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Maybe its just a southern thang, but we tend to be prepared for anything that arises or could go wrong, most of us cary enough tools in our truck to build a house. You don't approve of guns that is fine by me, but righteous indignation, spare us.

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