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Old 07-15-2020, 05:55 PM
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Its a new day and age and you never know who your going to encounter if I am in my truck, house, boat what ever there is a 2nd amendment piece somewhere on me or close.

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In Florida you can open carry when on way to fishing, fishing on your boat, camping or on the way to the range to shoot. That being said its easier to just have your CCW permit and carry all the time and keep it to your self unless god forbid you need it.

Open carry when on foot in a public area is generally illegal, but is permitted in certain circumstances, as defined by Florida statute 790.25(3). For example, open carry is permitted while hunting, fishing, camping, gun shows, or while target shooting at a gun range, and while going to and from such activities.
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Originally Posted by PeterDE View Post
I normally stay out of these arguments, I find them tiring and often self defeating, but your comment has stirred me to get up off the couch to say something. Caveat: I am and have been a gun owner since an early age, In my first sevn years with the Coast I worked in the weapons department ashore and on ships. I am no stranger to firearms and all the issues that go along with them. I have hunted, but now I am mainly a target shooter, and I have a CCL. Which I obtained mainly to come and go to the range. But your comment about "need" ? No, constitutional rights are not need based, but, I have lost count many years ago of how many people told me they "needed" to carry, whether concealed or open. Yes it's a right, but most people who carry feel they need the firearm for protection whether real or imagined. I spent many years at CG HQ fielding phone calls from boat owners who "needed" to carry a firearm on their boat. If you didn't have what you believe is a need to carry a firearm to protect yourself, then you wouldn't carry one.

PS: I feel a "need" to own a firearm, but no need to carry it around with me. My wife who is from NYC and did not grow up with firearm owners, sees no need to even own one. Yet we both have the right to do so.
Glad I could help and thanks for showing me the light.
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Exclamation Rights by definition are Need Based!

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Hmmmm. Didn’t realize constitutional rights were “need” based.
The central concept of the establishment of Constitutional Rights, especially the the first ten amendments of the United States Constitution is based on the need to protect the individual from an overbearing government!
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The central concept of the establishment of Constitutional Rights, especially the the first ten amendments of the United States Constitution is based on the need to protect the individual from an overbearing government!
I understand that. The point I’m making is that there are people who think if you don’t “need” something then it shouldn’t be allowed if they don’t like whatever it is. It’s tantamount to the person who says, “I believe in free speech, but...”
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Originally Posted by Bison View Post
The central concept of the establishment of Constitutional Rights, especially the the first ten amendments of the United States Constitution is based on the need to protect the individual from an overbearing government!
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Old 07-19-2020, 05:03 AM
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For those that believe there is no need to Carry on a boat or when going out fishing. Thoughts and prayers with the families

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-s...-homicide-lake
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Originally Posted by Lemonbayboating View Post
For those that believe there is no need to Carry on a boat or when going out fishing. Thoughts and prayers with the families

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-s...-homicide-lake
i just came here with a link to this...the brilliant among us will say this happened on shore...a remote area...just going fishing...what could go wrong...now add in a 100k boat full of equipment and nobody around for miles...what could go wrong...just because it doesnt happen on a daily basis doesnt mean it doesnt happen...

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/r...county-sheriff
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from a member on another forum...

Just a sight of a firearm can save your ass. I was about 50 miles offshore Port Canaveral in 1978 in a brand new 25 foot robalo center console. There was a large freighter south of me as I trolled along. Out of nowhere, a small runabout with two dark skinned guys came running toward me.They followed along in my wake as I continued to troll. I waved and got no response from them. I tried to raise them on channel 16 and got no response. We were outside the range of VHF radio’s to shore.

It was a weekday and we were the only boat out that far. When I pulled out the Mini-14 in a manner that allowed them to see it, they immediately took a sharp left and ran back to the freighter.(every other round was tracer, If I ever had to shoot at a pirate boat I figured I would aim for the fuel tank) I got the heck out of there and when we got to port I reported it to the Coast Guard. They told me they thought it was an attempted hijacking and they would have killed the two of us and stripped all the new stuff including the outboard and scuttled or burned the boat.
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Crazy shit out there man no doubt about it and in tough times people do stupid shit. And even in non crazy times there are those out there that will take whatever they can.
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Originally Posted by Jackfish2800 View Post
my .308 AR15
I never knew they built an AR15 in .308, I always thought those were AR10's, you must have a really rare gun there.
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Originally Posted by bladenbullet View Post
from a member on another forum...

Just a sight of a firearm can save your ass. I was about 50 miles offshore Port Canaveral in 1978 in a brand new 25 foot robalo center console. There was a large freighter south of me as I trolled along. Out of nowhere, a small runabout with two dark skinned guys came running toward me.They followed along in my wake as I continued to troll. I waved and got no response from them. I tried to raise them on channel 16 and got no response. We were outside the range of VHF radio’s to shore.

It was a weekday and we were the only boat out that far. When I pulled out the Mini-14 in a manner that allowed them to see it, they immediately took a sharp left and ran back to the freighter.(every other round was tracer, If I ever had to shoot at a pirate boat I figured I would aim for the fuel tank) I got the heck out of there and when we got to port I reported it to the Coast Guard. They told me they thought it was an attempted hijacking and they would have killed the two of us and stripped all the new stuff including the outboard and scuttled or burned the boat.
That's right!!!
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/three-arr...ishing-buddies

So more details are coming out, and apparently the victims had a prior run in with the suspect (who has somehow amassed over 200 felony charges in his life, but that's another topic) about some shady business deal allegedly involving the victim stealing the felon's truck or engine (depending on the source you read) and the fight escalated from there. So this doesn't exactly sound your typical fisherman minding his own business on the way to a fishing hole. When you live in a town of 3,000 people you damn sure know who the trouble makers are, and if you associate with them trouble is never far behind, and I wouldn't be shocked to hear if the victims have records too if they ran in the same group.

So look at your personal situation and make educated decisions from there. If you do business with felons with a multi page rap sheet, by all means pack heat while in the middle of nowhere, but it's not changing my posture. Just like a second hand account about a suspicious boat 42 years ago in a completely different ocean doesn't worry me. I bring enough junk to the boat every trip that never gets used, an expensive gun that's only going to rust and need to be cleaned is the last bit of safety gear I'll bring. I've been within 100 yards of a boat while offshore like 3 times this season, I'm willing to play the odds that they won't be Blackbeards great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandson keeping the family business alive.
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Originally Posted by bluescholar View Post
I've been within 100 yards of a boat while offshore like 3 times this season, I'm willing to play the odds that they won't be Blackbeards great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandson keeping the family business alive.
Come fish the weekend red snapper derby here in AL, that would be every weekend in June. You'll be 100 FEET from 3 boats at every wreck and rig you stop at. These guys rolled up on me trying to fish a wreck that's 20ft x 10ft and I'm sitting directly on top of it. A few seconds after I took this pic they were 12ft from my boat and would've hit me if I didn't yell at them.






You can justify your reasoning for not carrying a gun, and that's perfectly fine but to be honest I don't think anyone here really cares that much. If you feel safe because the odds are on your side... fine. If you want to carry an AR pistol every time you step on the boat... fine. The odds are most certainly in your favor of never needing a firearm on a boat. But I wouldn't criticize people who choose to have the ability to defend their life and others lives with lethal force at any given place or time. You might just have to rely on them one day....

I remembered this one when it happened. Would have been a perfect time to be armed. Instead these two families were defenseless victims and all their lives rested in the hands of an armed, drunk, dope headed captain.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...mp/ncna1014131

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Wow that's a crazy story you linked up surprised I missed that one it was just up the bay.
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Originally Posted by mdees88 View Post
Come fish the weekend red snapper derby here in AL, that would be every weekend in June. You'll be 100 FEET from 3 boats at every wreck and rig you stop at. These guys rolled up on me trying to fish a wreck that's 20ft x 10ft and I'm sitting directly on top of it. A few seconds after I took this pic they were 12ft from my boat and would've hit me if I didn't yell at them.






You can justify your reasoning for not carrying a gun, and that's perfectly fine but to be honest I don't think anyone here really cares that much. If you feel safe because the odds are on your side... fine. If you want to carry an AR pistol every time you step on the boat... fine. The odds are most certainly in your favor of never needing a firearm on a boat. But I wouldn't criticize people who choose to have the ability to defend their life and others lives with lethal force at any given place or time. You might just have to rely on them one day....
Thanks for providing the polite, yet needed beat-down.

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Originally Posted by trejsic.mejsic View Post
Thanks for providing the polite, yet needed beat-down.

Cheers, T.
In all sincerity, I am not carrying a gun this year. I may next year but I am going to rely on the sanity and good sense of my fellow fisherman one more year. But before we go “ape shit” crazy over something that is frustrating but not really that big of a deal, just take a deep breath. A disapproving frown and shake of the head is usually all it takes. But

in his defense he probably was waiting all week to come to that spot and you can sit all day on it with that 7k trolling motor which is beyond the ability of most fisherman to own and to them an unfair advantage.

in the future, what we all need to do is this.

when you approach a boat sitting on a wreck on your spot or where you want to fish, talk to him. The usual how is it going? Are you having an luck? We killed them here last weekend, Is it ok or just we are going to try to fish around you. Would do wonders.

i was blind because depth finder went out and as we watch a boat sitting on the wreck catch half a dozen keepers we started drifted past them, I Realize we were getting too close to them. So, I apologized and explained the situation with to guess that it never caught a snapper, had good gps but no depth finder. They were very understanding, Once they realized situation were extremely helpful in helping us drift over but the right spots And helping my novice fisherman catch his two snapper.

Also when you are culling as we all do in this situation, it’s kinda a dick move to cull for hours as you effectively block off a wreck and watch people struggling all around you. ( I promise you those big 20-30 pound sows aren’t right on the wreck anyway.)
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Originally Posted by Jackfish2800 View Post
In all sincerity, I am not carrying a gun this year. I may next year but I am going to rely on the sanity and good sense of my fellow fisherman one more year. But before we go “ape shit” crazy over something that is frustrating but not really that big of a deal, just take a deep breath. A disapproving frown and shake of the head is usually all it takes.
I yelled at him "hey, watch out". He turned around and saw that he was about to hit my boat and gunned his engines. No apologies or anything. I then told him to let me know if I was in his way because I would gladly move.
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But in his defense he probably was waiting all week to come to that spot and you can sit all day on it
I don't care if he waited his whole life to fish it. We were there first and only stayed for 45 minutes.
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with that 7k trolling motor
with that $2,200 trolling motor
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which is beyond the ability of most fisherman to own and to them an unfair advantage.
Would you like to guess how much his boat costs? I'm in a 2003 Kenner, his cost's at least 4 times what mine did, yet he doesn't have the "ability" to put a trolling motor on the front? So "unfair".... give me a break. I like how you continually defend the guilty party while portraying the innocent party as a bad guy. Hmmm, where have we seen this before?

Originally Posted by Jackfish2800 View Post
in the future, what we all need to do is this.

when you approach a boat sitting on a wreck on your spot or where you want to fish, talk to him. The usual how is it going? Are you having an luck? We killed them here last weekend, Is it ok or just we are going to try to fish around you. Would do wonders.
I didn't wake up at 3 o'clock in the morning drive 50 miles by truck and 30 miles by boat to shoot the sh$t with a bunch of random people in a boat, if that was my intention I would've slept in till 10 and drove to robinson island. I think being courteous to others when you talk to them is good, and I am, but I do not think driving up within casual conversation distance of another boat that's fishing a wreck is what everyone should be doing.

If I see someone on the wreck I want to fish... I go to a different wreck, because I respect the man that woke up earlier than me and got there first. There's 15,000 wrecks off of Alabama, thousands of public numbers, thousands of "not public" numbers you can get for free off the web, heck there's a public wreck a half a mile in every direction once you get inside the reef zones. That's what people should do.

But if you intend to fish the same wreck as others you should respect the person that got there first. If everyone is drifting then keep your distance, get in line, and make your drift. If someone is anchored on a wreck (trolling motor or anchor, makes no difference) you should either hold the boat on a spot with the motors (if the wreck is big enough for both of you) or position your drift so you don't interfere with the person who got there before you. If you happen to drift within 12ft of someone's boat and gun your motors to avoid a collision you should at least have the decency to apologize.

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Also when you are culling as we all do in this situation, it’s kinda a dick move to cull for hours as you effectively block off a wreck and watch people struggling all around you. (I promise you those big 20-30 pound sows aren’t right on the wreck anyway.)
I promise you that's exactly where those big sow MANGS are.... inside the wrecks.






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I have a permit in Ct, if I am traveling into NY waters I leave my gun home
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Originally Posted by mdees88 View Post
I yelled at him "hey, watch out". He turned around and saw that he was about to hit my boat and gunned his engines. No apologies or anything. I then told him to let me know if I was in his way because I would gladly move. I don't care if he waited his whole life to fish it. We were there first and only stayed for 45 minutes. with that $2,200 trolling motor Would you like to guess how much his boat costs? I'm in a 2003 Kenner, his cost's at least 4 times what mine did, yet he doesn't have the "ability" to put a trolling motor on the front? So "unfair".... give me a break. I like how you continually defend the guilty party while portraying the innocent party as a bad guy. Hmmm, where have we seen this before?

I didn't wake up at 3 o'clock in the morning drive 50 miles by truck and 30 miles by boat to shoot the sh$t with a bunch of random people in a boat, if that was my intention I would've slept in till 10 and drove to robinson island. I think being courteous to others when you talk to them is good, and I am, but I do not think driving up within casual conversation distance of another boat that's fishing a wreck is what everyone should be doing.

If I see someone on the wreck I want to fish... I go to a different wreck, because I respect the man that woke up earlier than me and got there first. There's 15,000 wrecks off of Alabama, thousands of public numbers, thousands of "not public" numbers you can get for free off the web, heck there's a public wreck a half a mile in every direction once you get inside the reef zones. That's what people should do.

But if you intend to fish the same wreck as others you should respect the person that got there first. If everyone is drifting then keep your distance, get in line, and make your drift. If someone is anchored on a wreck (trolling motor or anchor, makes no difference) you should either hold the boat on a spot with the motors (if the wreck is big enough for both of you) or position your drift so you don't interfere with the person who got there before you. If you happen to drift within 12ft of someone's boat and gun your motors to avoid a collision you should at least have the decency to apologize.

I promise you that's exactly where those big sow MANGS are.... inside the wrecks.

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I yelled at him "hey, watch out". He turned around and saw that he was about to hit my boat and gunned his engines. No apologies or anything. I then told him to let me know if I was in his way because I would gladly move. I don't care if he waited his whole life to fish it. We were there first and only stayed for 45 minutes. with that $2,200 trolling motor Would you like to guess how much his boat costs? I'm in a 2003 Kenner, his cost's at least 4 times what mine did, yet he doesn't have the "ability" to put a trolling motor on the front? So "unfair".... give me a break. I like how you continually defend the guilty party while portraying the innocent party as a bad guy. Hmmm, where have we seen this before?

I didn't wake up at 3 o'clock in the morning drive 50 miles by truck and 30 miles by boat to shoot the sh$t with a bunch of random people in a boat, if that was my intention I would've slept in till 10 and drove to robinson island. I think being courteous to others when you talk to them is good, and I am, but I do not think driving up within casual conversation distance of another boat that's fishing a wreck is what everyone should be doing.

If I see someone on the wreck I want to fish... I go to a different wreck, because I respect the man that woke up earlier than me and got there first. There's 15,000 wrecks off of Alabama, thousands of public numbers, thousands of "not public" numbers you can get for free off the web, heck there's a public wreck a half a mile in every direction once you get inside the reef zones. That's what people should do.

But if you intend to fish the same wreck as others you should respect the person that got there first. If everyone is drifting then keep your distance, get in line, and make your drift. If someone is anchored on a wreck (trolling motor or anchor, makes no difference) you should either hold the boat on a spot with the motors (if the wreck is big enough for both of you) or position your drift so you don't interfere with the person who got there before you. If you happen to drift within 12ft of someone's boat and gun your motors to avoid a collision you should at least have the decency to apologize.

I promise you that's exactly where those big sow MANGS are.... inside the wrecks.

When you take people and their idea's apart it is like watching a surgeon removing cancer.

Entertaining and informative yet fair and polite.

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