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Old 05-22-2020, 03:59 PM
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Default Closest place in Venice for mahi and tuna

I will be bringing my father ďwho was hit with an IED in Iraq and is disabledĒ down to Venice hopefully in June some time. We have a 22ft boat that has been rigged to help him get around. That being said, it doesnt have the long range of the bigger boats to get out really deep. We arenít looking for anything huge but itís on his bucket list to catch a tuna. And we always love some dorado as well. I wouldnít expect your exact coordinates but if someone could basically give us a push in the right direction it would be an awesome help. Like, east side, west side, how far out etc. thank you in advance and good luck getting those rods to bend!

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Old 05-22-2020, 04:06 PM
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look up the lumps or East lump. You would need a flat day
Old 05-22-2020, 04:09 PM
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First of all thank your Dad for his service. Greatly appreciated and not taken for granted. In terms of Venice with a 22ft boat. A lot is going to depend on 1) your experience with Venice and the lower Manhattan river delta in terms of navigating etc. I like to say, itís requires PHD level navigation and boat handling skills.
2) your experience offshore fishing for tuna in general.
If both of the answers for this are limited to none, I would recommend doing research on finding a captain in Venice with a large enough boat to handle your dads needs and the run offshore in various weather conditions. If you are determined to give it a shot, I would recommend leaving out of grand isle since it has no river to contend with. Most often tuna are caught this time of year and later out around the floaters rigs. Mahi should be relatively plentiful around the weed lines and color breaks. Good luck and let us know how you do.
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Iím not from there but have fished out of there and I could be way off but your likely looking at atleast a 70 mile run leaving out of Venice before you find bluewater. Thatís been my experience and Iíd love to hear someone say otherwise.
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Doesnít require phd, mariner skills. Get on Hiltons or Rip Charts and find a rip. Timing is everything.., calm seas and a rip line or close bluewater. 20 miles in the river+ 20 miles? Off, 90 mile round trip
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Early last week we had green water out at Ursa, so it could be a long haul. Check Hiltons for updates.
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the closest place where I think you might have a decent chance is ELF (a spar type production platform) about 25 miles (se) out of the pass (south pass). Unfortunately south pass is barely navigable.There are other passes that can make Elf (also known as Matterhorn) a doable destination in your boat but none that would be good without local knowledge.You can make ELF out of SW pass but that will make it 15-20 miles further. Really for what you are wanting to do, there is no practical game plan without local knowledge.. A charter would be by far the best option, it might cost 2000+ but you can divide that up with as much as 6 people. There are a number of traditional tuna places out of southwest pass that could answer to your needs but your chances are not good for tuna on a single trip. Your dad could be real comfortable in a big 30-40'+ charter boat with the big ole bean bags . Don't go to the "east lump-s" wrong time of year and again a pass running issue.
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Early fall when the river level is low the rip might come in a bit closer making a trip on your small boat at least feasible. Like others have said it's going to take a calm day. Your fuel load in that boat is also a big factor. Maybe hooking up with a charter is the way to go.
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The old go to of "hire a charter" gets old in this sub-forum, but from what you stated in your OP you should "hire a charter!" I'm sure there are several capts. down there that would bend over backwards to accommodate him. If you really want to check off those bucket list items spend the money. Good Luck!
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Keep an eye on where the blue water rip is. Dont let people discourage you. It's not hard at all. Later in the summer the blue water rip can be only 5 miles from the mouth of the river. Its normally loaded with mahi. Yellowfin can also be on the rip later in the summer into the fall.
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I fish out of Venice a couple weeks a year in a 22 foot boat and if the weather is perfect you can make it out to one of the ďTunaĒ rigs but if you really want to catch one in June your chances are not very good and I think you will be disappointed. But if you just want to fight fish all day long and donít really care what you catch any of the rigs out of south west pass or red pass will do the trick within10-12 miles you can get into 400+ ftw From the mouth of the pass and catch Snapper, AJ, Jacks, Bonita, Cobia and if your lucky you can find a lot of BF. There is all kinds of bottom fishing around those rigs to. If you want a big YF I would go together and charter a boat. We drive down with the boat a couple times a year from MI and never charter any more and I never have any regrets. Good luck and be careful, the navigation is serious but doable if you know what your doing and you do some research.
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First time in Venice with a 22í boat and expecting to catch yellowfin isnít realistic. Iím not saying it canít be done but it certainly is not realistic. Itís also fairly dangerous given the passes and seas. Iíve caught yellowfin and blue marlin 12 miles from south pass and could have done it on that day in your boat. Itís not the norm.... you would have to catch it perfect. If you lived there you could probably pull it off a few times per year. Coming in from out of town and doing it on a schedule is different. Best of luck. I hope everyone that goes is successful!

ps hire a charter
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Originally Posted by jkmjr View Post
The old go to of "hire a charter" gets old in this sub-forum, but from what you stated in your OP you should "hire a charter!" I'm sure there are several capts. down there that would bend over backwards to accommodate him. If you really want to check off those bucket list items spend the money. Good Luck!
I agree with this^^^ Spend some $$ and one of the captains down there will put you on a tuna.
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To the OP, again thanks and much gratitude for your Dadís service and sacrifice.

Many good points about Venice made here by others. One thing newcomers do not understand is truly how big and wild the River really is. I am not familiar with the waters yíall typically fish, but the River can throw big (sometimes unseen) rogue waves at you from ships and other commercial traffic, floating logs and debris, not to mention the many rock weirs and jetty systems and changing sandbars in main channels that, unless you have local knowledge, can ruin your day. That said, it is a wonderful place to fish and especially in the fall when the river flows diminish and the river clears up. Good luck and stay safe.
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Originally Posted by Twin Vee 26 View Post
First time in Venice with a 22í boat and expecting to catch yellowfin isnít realistic. Iím not saying it canít be done but it certainly is not realistic. Itís also fairly dangerous given the passes and seas. Iíve caught yellowfin and blue marlin 12 miles from south pass and could have done it on that day in your boat. Itís not the norm.... you would have to catch it perfect. If you lived there you could probably pull it off a few times per year. Coming in from out of town and doing it on a schedule is different. Best of luck. I hope everyone that goes is successful!

ps hire a charter
Exactly this. I ran hundreds of miles over 2 days with a few locals in a Freeman a few months back and didn't bag any tuna. It can be done in a 22' but so can winning a lottery.
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