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Old 06-06-2019, 03:21 PM
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I have recently moved to the Dallas Tx area from Greensboro NC. I have a Parker 2320 that I have thoroughly enjoyed fishing off the NC coast.

I am trying to gather information about the Texas coast. Specifically, where to stay, what to expect at the inlets, how far offshore is a typical offshore run, what are the weather trends, etc.

I prefer smaller fishing communities that are not heavily commercialized with tourism. I have been looking at the Matagorda area and would love to hear some feedback about the inlet, marinas, and lodging in that area.

Anyone that would like to chat some, I would love to get the opportunity to pick your brain about the type of fishing and the behind the scenes opinions.
Anyone in the Dallas area, I would love to try and take the time to sit down and talk about fishing.
My preferences are offshore fishing. I love bottom fishing but also trolling as well. I am not picky, but I do love to go grouper fishing as well as tuna fishing.
Any opinions, ideas, or suggestions are much appreciated.
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Old 06-06-2019, 04:26 PM
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I am in the north dallas area. I know a bit about offshore till you start going passed 10 miles out. I fish from a kayak so its a little bit different.
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Old 06-07-2019, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dshowers2006 View Post
I have recently moved to the Dallas Tx area from Greensboro NC. I have a Parker 2320 that I have thoroughly enjoyed fishing off the NC coast.

I am trying to gather information about the Texas coast. Specifically, where to stay, what to expect at the inlets, how far offshore is a typical offshore run, what are the weather trends, etc.

I prefer smaller fishing communities that are not heavily commercialized with tourism. I have been looking at the Matagorda area and would love to hear some feedback about the inlet, marinas, and lodging in that area.

Anyone that would like to chat some, I would love to get the opportunity to pick your brain about the type of fishing and the behind the scenes opinions.
Anyone in the Dallas area, I would love to try and take the time to sit down and talk about fishing.
My preferences are offshore fishing. I love bottom fishing but also trolling as well. I am not picky, but I do love to go grouper fishing as well as tuna fishing.
Any opinions, ideas, or suggestions are much appreciated.
Welcome to Texas. If you like small communities, check out Surfside/Freeport. You'll find some posts on THT. There are a couple marinas down here, the biggest being Surfside Marina. I keep a boat here and the guys/gals working are the best. There are free boat ramps in the area as well where you can easily launch a 23'. (Bridge Bait, directly across from Surfside Marina as you look on Google Earth. Cost is $5 unless you buy something, then its free) There are a number of places coming down Hwy 332 to get live shrimp, or an assortment of dead bait. Bucees at the corner of 523 and 332 has frozen squid, sardines, and other frozen bait. If you haven't already been to a Bucees, then you're in for a treat. It's just a gas station, but once you stop at one, you'll get it.

Lodging is available in the area at Ocean Village Hotel, a few Motels, or a number of beach houses. Surfside is only very busy during holidays but mostly just for the day.
State waters extend 9 miles out and you can always fish for snapper. Past 9 miles is Federal water so you'll have to pay attention to snapper season. Lucky for you it opened last weekend and doesn't close until August 1. You'll find snapper, cobia, ling, mackeral, red fish and a bunch more around 10 miles. Grouper and Tuna are 50+ miles. Corpus may have some places closer....don't know.
The attached picture is a little red from the end of the jetties. Slot reds are 20" - 28", and your fishing license gives you (1) tag for a fish larger than 28", per year. Feel free to PM me if you want to ask some questions. Weather looks good this weekend so I'm taking my 13 year old and his friend out ~10 miles.

This is the buoy to watch for the Freeport/Matagorda area. https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/Forec...US54.KHGX.html
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:31 PM
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Christian, thanks for the info. I am hoping to find someone that is experienced with the Gulf offshore aspects and inlet characteristics. It's always awesome to talk with a fellow fisherman. I would be happy to chat with you anytime, especially since you're a fellow Dallas resident.
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:34 PM
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Thanks for the information. I will definately check those areas out and see what I can figure out. I appreciate the buoy info as well. I will touch base with you later on in a pm and chat about some of the areas. Thanks again!! Good luck this weekend. Have a great time!!
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:51 PM
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Welcome to Texas!

Here’s the no bull shit scoop on fishing offshore in Texas.

Texas has some fantastic offshore fishing, BUT.... true pelagic fishing STARTS about 80+ miles offshore out of Freeport. You really need to go 100+ if you’re serious about Yellowfin, Marlin etc. The shelf is a long way out on the upper gulf coast. Most people spend the night at the rigs because of these long runs. Most Popular are Tequlia, Cerveza, Nansen, Boomvang, Hoover/Diana, Gunnison. Other spot is The flower gardens. One of the few natural reefs round in the gulf.


Species such as Cobia (ling), chicken dolphin, triple tail, king mackerel & snapper can be found a few miles offshore and beyond. Amber Jack can be found in water 150 feet plus. That’s 60 plus miles depending on the area. As you move further south (port A, port O’Conner) the shelf is closer and runs aren’t as far.

I advise looking at the 2coolfishing forum. Lots of Texas fisherman on there
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:53 PM
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Forgot to mention you can catch blackfin behind shrimp boats not very far out. Ton of fun and they’re just as good as yellowfin
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Old 06-08-2019, 01:15 AM
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Small world we relocated from Coastal NC to Corpus Christi, that’s about 6-7 hours south of you. Fishing in Tx is much better than NC but it’s different so definitely get some local help or charter. Fishing out of port A or the corpus area is dependent on the ever blowing wind and the gulf chop. Feel free to pm me I’d be happy to help and welcome to Texas it’s truly a nice place we love it.

Check out https://www.2coolfishing.com/ it’s your friend down here.

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Old 06-08-2019, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ater22 View Post
forgot to mention you can catch blackfin behind shrimp boats not very far out. Ton of fun and they’re just as good as yellowfin
huh???
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Old 06-08-2019, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dryhydro View Post
huh???

huh what?
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While we wait on the YFT vs BFT taste debate....
You're going to "want" a bigger boat. Unfortunately for us here, the GOM isn't so kind as far as conditions go.
Unless you just enjoy getting beat up, your current boat (same size as mine) is about a 5% usage vessel down here from Nov to June. Typically at least 2'-3' (always confused) and those "maybe" days are almost always book-ended by 4'-5' or worse.
About this time of year, you'll get some more consecutive days and as it gets hotter, it'll lay down a little more consistently. The glass slick days do come, but it's not going to be as often as you want and a pain to plan for given the distance you'll need to haul.
Basically scratch Galveston off your list with this boat- for offshore anyway. The further down the coast you can get, the better.
Lots of great people here with tons of info, but as mentioned above, do also check out 2cool for more relevant postings.
I'd highly recommend you check link below and purchase what you can afford or best suits your needs and load up your MFD.
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Also don't miss out on State water structures, link below
Artificial Reefs not all inclusive. I cannot currently locate my other folder of links...someone will likely chime-in.
Consider posting on here or 2Cool when you plan to make a run, good chance you can find a buddy boat.
And welcome to Tx...even if it is Dallas.
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Old 06-08-2019, 10:41 PM
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Lol if the “huh” was about eating black fin, then I guess that is personal opinion.

Do a “black fin vs Yellowfin” search on here and you’ll see 95% of people say they can’t tell the difference if prepared correctly and I completely agree.
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Old 06-09-2019, 02:00 AM
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Lol if the “huh” was about eating black fin, then I guess that is personal opinion.

Do a “black fin vs Yellowfin” search on here and you’ll see 95% of people say they can’t tell the difference if prepared correctly and I completely agree.
If you are talking about Sashimi, there IS a difference and one IS much better than the other. Not saying blackfin is off the menu however.
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Old 06-09-2019, 05:32 AM
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If you are talking about Sashimi, there IS a difference and one IS much better than the other. Not saying blackfin is off the menu however.
I can’t tell the difference. Fresh on the boat with a little soy sauce. Yellowfin has prettier steaks. If that matters
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Originally Posted by dshowers2006 View Post
I have recently moved to the Dallas Tx area from Greensboro NC. I have a Parker 2320 that I have thoroughly enjoyed fishing off the NC coast.

I am trying to gather information about the Texas coast. Specifically, where to stay, what to expect at the inlets, how far offshore is a typical offshore run, what are the weather trends, etc.

I prefer smaller fishing communities that are not heavily commercialized with tourism. I have been looking at the Matagorda area and would love to hear some feedback about the inlet, marinas, and lodging in that area.

Anyone that would like to chat some, I would love to get the opportunity to pick your brain about the type of fishing and the behind the scenes opinions.
Anyone in the Dallas area, I would love to try and take the time to sit down and talk about fishing.
My preferences are offshore fishing. I love bottom fishing but also trolling as well. I am not picky, but I do love to go grouper fishing as well as tuna fishing.
Any opinions, ideas, or suggestions are much appreciated.
so how was your move/transition to Dallas? Housing, area, taxes, quality of life, ect.......?
I have an open invitation to transfer there practically a time I choose but have been holding out for better options. I bounce around quite a bit.
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I can’t tell the difference. Fresh on the boat with a little soy sauce. Yellowfin has prettier steaks. If that matters
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by luckymonkey View Post
Welcome to Texas. If you like small communities, check out Surfside/Freeport. There are a couple marinas down here, the biggest being Surfside Marina.
Welcome to Texas. I'm going to have to disagree with a couple of things here.... Freeport is no sleepy little town. It's a large industrial complex built upon the Oil and Gas industry. The entire area is dominated by DOW Chemical, among other refinery business, and the Dole port that brings in the Banana boats. The Surfside community is mostly comprised of weekend getaway homes for wealthy Houstonians, mixed with a few of your laid back, coastal, beach-bum hippy types. There is not much in the way of resources besides the centrally located Bucee's and a few sketchy dives. The area does pick up in the summer months for the beach-goers who like to swim in brown water. Lake Jackson is just to the north of the Freeport, Clute, Surfside area and is the community oasis that supports the area. Many of your "locals" who work along the coastal are live here.

I would argue to say that Freeport Municipal is the largest marina in the area. They definitely have more wet-slips than Surfside, and can accommodate both larger and smaller vessels. Their dry stack facilities are comparable. There is also Kirby's which may be the largest overall for square footage, and they have the largest travel lift available to the general public. They don't have any dry stack services, but they have the best prices on wet slips.... But take a ride out there and look around and you will see why.

If you really want that "sleepy little town" flavor, you need to run to Matagorda or west to Port O'Conner or Rockport. They are small, but these are not the kind of places where your going to find cute little ocean side bungalows and quaint little bar to drink out of coconuts. Resources are sparse; almost to a spartan level. Meaning you will mostly be regulated to gas station food and whatever hotel accommodations available are the kind that will make your wife say "Eeeeewwwwww." The Rockport area was devastated by Hurricane Harvey and I'm not sure of it's current state of recovery.

Moving down the line, you have Port Aransas and Corpus Christie. Both are very industrial areas, but the resources are a little better and the coastal area is more populated. It's more like a Galveston feel without the grittiness. Then you have a whole lot of coastal nothing (marshes and wetlands) until you get to S. Padre Island. This is the closest thing you will see to a vacation/resort area that resembles anything like Mobile AL and points east.

I think you already have the no BS version of the fishing situation. You will need to pick your days wisely and come to the conclusion that a few of your trips may result in a no-go. Your closest port will be Galveston. The Yacht Basin is a very nice and large facility. Bait and tackle shop on site. Commercial Fishing, Tourist, and integrated community. However, Loooooooong runs to any kind of decent off shore fishing. You will have to decide if you want to run 300 miles with the trailer and 60 miles in the boat, or 400 miles with the trailer and 40 miles in the boat.

If you are into Kingfish, you can sometimes find them right off the jetties in the summer. Just start when you get into clean green water. Red snapper can be found in near shore structure, but you will have to venture 25 miles or more to get into anything decent size. Maybe even further as the summer wears on and they get picked over. You will have to get out 50+ miles to get into any kind of grouper, beeliners, and amberjack. You may get lucky and get a rare bonito or black fin, but they are not usually around until late summer when the shrimp boats come in. Even then it's a crap-shoot and you have to weed through the sharks. Blackfin and Yellow fin can be had at the large rig structures 100+ miles off shore. You can also get into Marlin and other bill-fish in this area and beyond. Dolphin fish..... Usually just chicken size. I'm not sure if they are just way over fished in this area, but I've never seen one to compare to anything you guys catch on the Atlantic side. Cobia... I have never seen anyone specifically go out and target Cobia. I don't think they are around in great numbers. It's more of an opportunity fish.

hit me up sometime if you want to chat, or even take a trip out and take a ride in my boat.
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Good post popeyeiii, but I will make a couple of corrections:
=left"If you really want that "sleepy little town" flavor, you need to run to Matagorda or west to Port O'Conner or Rockport. They are small, but these are not the kind of places where your going to find cute little ocean side bungalows and quaint little bar to drink out of coconuts. Resources are sparse; almost to a spartan level. Meaning you will mostly be regulated to gas station food and whatever hotel accommodations available are the kind that will make your wife say "Eeeeewwwwww." The Rockport area was devastated by Hurricane Harvey and I'm not sure of it's current state of recovery."

I live in Rockport and ,while your description of Matagorda and Port O'Conner are accurate, Rockport is much more developed. It is a tweener, not rustic and small but not big like Corpus or Galveston. We have numerous restaurants and a large variety of places to stay. We are recovering from the hurricane and almost all the hotels are being rebuilt and will be open soon. We have HEB, Walmart and a great tackle shop. Also have Cove Harbor Drystack if you want convenience with your boat. Rockport is also an art town so something else fun for the members of your party who don't want to fish. Many festivals like Oyster Fest, Babes on the Bay Fishing Tournament and Seafair. Close to Port Aransas jetty so an easy run offshore with deep water much closer than Galveston. Not a bad drive from Dallas - go south on I35 to Waco and then jump onto HWY 77 (good road and no traffic) and the drive is around six hours. Galveston is not much closer if you hit Friday traffic thru Houston.

Port Aransas is a true tourist beach and fishing town. It can get pretty crowded in the summer, especially around the holidays. Also have to deal with the ferry or drive to Corpus and back up Mustang Island. We like the proximity of the Port A beach fun without living there.
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so how was your move/transition to Dallas? Housing, area, taxes, quality of life, ect.......?
I have an open invitation to transfer there practically a time I choose but have been holding out for better options. I bounce around quite a bit.
Alligatorgar....the move to Texas was stressful, but that is to be expected with any big move. When comparing the cost of living and such, Dallas was comparable to most with the exception of the cost of housing. That was substantially more than I had anticipated, but I guess that is relative to where you are moving from. Taxes in regards to sales tax and such seem to be comparable. However, it has been very nice with no state income tax.

The quality of life seems to be ok in the Dallas area. I think the further you get away in the burbs; the quieter and less hectic that will be. I choose to stay close to Love Field and search for a place after my current lease runs out. From what I have learned from the move, the 30 to 45-minute commute range south of Dallas seems to be appealing. Any severe weather seems to wear out the northside of the Dallas area more so than the southside. Would I do it all again? Absolutely!
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Port Aransas natives would have steam shooting out of their ears if they heard you describe their town as gritty My mom lives there. Port A is also asshole to elbow crowded on most summer weekends. I MUCH prefer north padre but then again I live in Corpus so the drive isn't very far regardless.
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