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Old 06-05-2019, 08:03 PM
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This really pisses me off. With the lack of rain we have had lately the water around our islands should be beautiful. Instead it is nasty ass polluted fresh water from the Mississippi River courtesy of the Corps of Engineers via the Bonnet Carre. The salinity in the Sound is around 0-1 PPT and between 4-6 around the islands. This is a freaking environmental disaster which I don't see ending anytime soon.
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Old 06-05-2019, 08:13 PM
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Huge rainfall in the Midwest is the problem. Major flooding upriver.
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Old 06-05-2019, 08:13 PM
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This really pisses me off. With the lack of rain we have had lately the water around our islands should be beautiful. Instead it is nasty ass polluted fresh water from the Mississippi River courtesy of the Corps of Engineers via the Bonnet Carre. The salinity in the Sound is around 0-1 PPT and between 4-6 around the islands. This is a freaking environmental disaster which I don't see ending anytime soon.
I guess the COE should have called God to get him to do something about all this flooding.

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Old 06-06-2019, 04:17 AM
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It is bad.
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Old 06-06-2019, 04:48 AM
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^^And it ain't getting better any time soon.
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Old 06-06-2019, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by xl883lo View Post
I guess the COE should have called God to get him to do something about all this flooding.
If it was up to God this water would not be draining into the Mississippi Sound.
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Old 06-06-2019, 05:30 AM
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If it was up to God this water would not be draining into the Mississippi Sound.
uh-you sure about that?
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Old 06-06-2019, 05:46 AM
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ya God would want to flood NOLA so your spring fishing isn't interrupted!
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Old 06-06-2019, 06:19 AM
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If it was up to God this water would not be draining into the Mississippi Sound.
I live my free time in and about the Mississippi Sound. It sucks this year. But I also know that before there was a Bonne Carre spillway the Mighty Mississippi naturally dumped into the Mississippi Sound. Meaning this year it is exactly how God made it. Be sure to thank the COE and the taxpayers for each year besides this year that the river didn't dump into the sound.
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Old 06-06-2019, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MakoMyDay View Post
uh-you sure about that?
yeah it would be draining down the Atchafalaya river and basin. Instead federal government didn’t want the river to change its natural course and created the Old River Control stations
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Old 06-06-2019, 07:08 AM
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yeah, with the volume of fresh water coming out of the Atchafalaya, near coastal water will be bad for fishing for a while.
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Part of living around the spout of the third longest river system in the world is accepting its flow. Those barrier islands would have never even been created without that river. It sucks for all whose fishing patterns are disturbed, but that river is why the fishing is so good in normal scenarios.
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Old 06-06-2019, 08:21 AM
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If it was up to God this water would not be draining into the Mississippi Sound.
What does God think of all the river water coming out of the Pearl, Wolf, Jourdan, Mobile, and Tombigbee? All rivers have been near flood stage, try fishing in Bay St Louis very muddy but can catch redfish.
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Old 06-06-2019, 08:26 AM
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What makes the water polluted?
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wouldnt the bulk of the MS river flooding be eliminated if all of the main passes at the river outlet were dredged instead of just SW pass?
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What makes the water polluted?
Flood water is always nasty with contaminants and trash...the whole river is jacked up now with all the upstream flooding and then there is the extra silt.

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Old 06-06-2019, 09:34 AM
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What does God think of all the river water coming out of the Pearl, Wolf, Jourdan, Mobile, and Tombigbee? All rivers have been near flood stage, try fishing in Bay St Louis very muddy but can catch redfish.
This has nothing to do with the natural flow of freshwater from these waterways. You missed the Pascagoula River. The rain the rest of this week from these systems is going to be bad enough. The spillway is a man made diversion.
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Originally Posted by CG31 View Post
This has nothing to do with the natural flow of freshwater from these waterways. You missed the Pascagoula River. The rain the rest of this week from these systems is going to be bad enough. The spillway is a man made diversion.
I think you have that backwards.......the levee is the man-made diversion and the spillway is the "natural course" for that water. If man had not built the levees and spillways you would be experiencing even more floodwater than you are now.

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Old 06-06-2019, 11:22 AM
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If you've never read the book "Rising Tide" you should. Great book on the history of the Mississippi river and the struggle to control it.
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Originally Posted by kyle_howie View Post
wouldnt the bulk of the MS river flooding be eliminated if all of the main passes at the river outlet were dredged instead of just SW pass?
Actually I just spent some time with some Corps of Engineer folks that worked on a water pressure/flow project here in Mobile and you would be very surprised how much the water flow doesn't change when you dredge and/or try to funnel water different directions. Water is a crazy animal and doesn't always work the way you think. I was very surprised by some results that looked like they would be common sense results but they were the exact opposite. I am not a professional and won't speak on their behalf so I don't screw it up or give some bad info. What I took away from it was that when you redirect water in rivers they find ways to replace that water and a lot depends on the resistance of the body of water you are dumping into (Think tides and space for the water to go without raising up the level of water). It was some crazy data to look at and they constantly monitor the water flowing through all of these rivers.
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