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Old 05-08-2019, 05:11 AM
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Find a good used world cat or glacier bay.
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:26 AM
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I would recommend looking at a Catamaran. World Cat, Glacier Bay, and Twin Vee all have models that will suit your needs and be very economical.
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by briankinley2004 View Post
If going fast or having a trailer is not a big deal you can get alot more boat with total comfort for the family going with a larger boat. The go fast trailer boat market has pushed the prices of used yachts down. You could pick up a 40-50' Hatteras, Bertram or Post for 50-80K in good shape. Air conditioning, head, cable TV and a full galley make it comfortable for everyone and the range of these boats is excellent in any sea if you cruise at hull speed.
And then spend another $200k over the next several years keeping it running.
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:48 AM
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This is all you'd need right here.

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Old 05-09-2019, 05:55 PM
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And then spend another $200k over the next several years keeping it running.
Just curious where you are getting these numbers from? I have owned both a 30 foot saltwater catamaran with twin engines and a 55 foot Hatteras. My maintenance numbers run about the same for each boat. Re-power on the cat about half what a rebuild would be on both Detroit mains but otherwise normal P&M not much different especially if you per foot it.
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:49 PM
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25,27,31 Contender will do all you want.
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by briankinley2004 View Post
Just curious where you are getting these numbers from? I have owned both a 30 foot saltwater catamaran with twin engines and a 55 foot Hatteras. My maintenance numbers run about the same for each boat. Re-power on the cat about half what a rebuild would be on both Detroit mains but otherwise normal P&M not much different especially if you per foot it.
That's right...
Comfort or speed???
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Old 05-10-2019, 12:07 PM
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If you are talking used - I think my boat will fill your needs - works good for us and we run further. IMO - a 25T with 150's is about as bombproof as you can get. A 25-26' Seahunt will do about the same thing with more family features. A $100K buys you a nice boat. Enjoy..
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Old 05-10-2019, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by briankinley2004 View Post
Just curious where you are getting these numbers from? I have owned both a 30 foot saltwater catamaran with twin engines and a 55 foot Hatteras. My maintenance numbers run about the same for each boat. Re-power on the cat about half what a rebuild would be on both Detroit mains but otherwise normal P&M not much different especially if you per foot it.
I have a good friend that bought a 55 boat right at $100k. His boat is an older boat, not as old as the one in your signature.

He's already put $200k into it after buying it with bottom paints, haul outs, new generator, new fuel tanks, one new engine, new electronics, etc. Not everyone is gonna be in the same boat like him but having watched everything he's gone through and the money he's spent it certainly made me rethink every buying an older boat like that. Once he gets done with the last stuff he's done he'll probably only have bottom painting and normal maintenance for awhile, but he's dropping some SERIOUS cash to fix all the things that were wrong and needed to be updated to keep it going.
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Old 05-10-2019, 12:16 PM
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I'd probably look for an older 31 Cape Horn, 27-31 Contender, or Fountain depending on what type of fishing you are doing. A 24-27 footer gets small quick offshore. Wouldn't recommend a large convertible in that price range, but you can get a nice express in the 30-38' range, and maintenance won't kill you.
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Old 05-10-2019, 05:38 PM
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Well he bought a boat that would cost 2 million new for 100 grand and put 200 grand in it to get it to point of being in good shape. He is out 300 grand but he could have spent 700 grand on a new Freeman and still not have air conditioning. As DryHydro said comfort or speed.
Just for sake of this discussion I just looked at the spread sheet on my boats. On the catamaran I spent $633/month in repairs/maintenance over the time I owned it. This excluded the cost of the repower. If you add that it would be $1077/month. On my Hatteras right now I am averaging $1,210/month.
This includes replacing electronics and fixing alot of deferred maintenance such as your friend had to do. It excludes rebuild of engine. They were supposedly rebuilt 400 hours ago so hopefully thats way down the road. The cat had 800 hours on engines when we had to repower. Both boats exclude storage, fuel, slip rent, etc. In my case boat storage vs slip rent is about a wash. I live far enough away that I had to pay $400/month for an RV spot so I had a place to sleep while at the dock. With the Hatteras I pay $450/month for the slip but dont need the RV as we sleep on the boat. If you factor in the cost of the camper and its maintenance I would bet I was spending as much or more monthly on the cat situation than I am now.

Hopefully my wife will not see this post and I have not caused other hull truthers grievances from their wives seeing this. It is what it is.
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Old 05-11-2019, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by briankinley2004 View Post
On the catamaran I spent $633/month in repairs/maintenance over the time I owned it. This excluded the cost of the repower. If you add that it would be $1077/month. On my Hatteras right now I am averaging $1,210/month. This includes replacing electronics and fixing alot of deferred maintenance such as your friend had to do. It excludes rebuild of engine. Both boats exclude storage, fuel, slip rent, etc. In my case boat storage vs slip rent is about a wash.
Hopefully my wife doesn't read this either LOL.

My costs including repairs, maintenance on my catamaran, plus dry storage for the boat, plus the note on a new camper (4 slide out), plus the camper spot that is leased (which includes a covered awning and additional storage) plus electricity on camp comes out to about $1,171 a month.
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Originally Posted by keithelder View Post
Hopefully my wife doesn't read this either LOL.

My costs including repairs, maintenance on my catamaran, plus dry storage for the boat, plus the note on a new camper (4 slide out), plus the camper spot that is leased (which includes a covered awning and additional storage) plus electricity on camp comes out to about $1,171 a month.
That sounds good for what your getting Keith Years back my dry storage was $10 per foot .
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Keith has the right idea. A quality used Cat would fit the bill excellent. I fish the Gulf out of South Texas and i recently started a build with Renaissance Prowler on a 25 as i wanted the best ride and fuel economy and range i could get for my buck. That boat that Keith posted the link to would be an excellent deal. If that had not come up for sale after i started my new build i would have bought that in a heart beat.
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