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Old 05-01-2019, 08:42 AM
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June-July'ish. Venice or South Padre?

Been fishing Freeport Tx Gulf and Galveston Bays for the past 5 years. I live in Houston and was considering trailering to Venice or South Padre. I have a 19 ft Sea Hunt with a deeper V decent deadrise and 4stroke Yamaha I trust, insurance for towing boat and trailering issues. Epirb, VHF ext.
Spring is obviously very unpredictable but During the summer I run offshore 30-40 miles out of Freeport confidently when the seas are 1-2's. Yes I always pay attention to wave periods and surrounding weather. Using apps like reefcast and Ripcharts before I go for wind prediction by the hour and water currents and clarity.
Both locations are about equal distance from me. Really wanting to get deeper in that 30 mile mark to try for Tuna and mahi
Of course, only on a nice day. I trust my capabilities and I have the proper safety equipment. Just some dialogue about the fishing and what to expect would be nice!
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Old 05-01-2019, 08:45 AM
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I like South Padre for an overall vacation with some fishing in the mix, but for a pure fishing trip with tons of options, Venice is the best I have ever experienced.
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Venice - cruise to Boca Grande - Ft. Myers, Gasparilla Island, Placida, all sorts of places within a few hours drive or nice ICW cruise - great fishing as well.
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Old 05-01-2019, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by M.A.CCruiser View Post
Venice - cruise to Boca Grande - Ft. Myers, Gasparilla Island, Placida, all sorts of places within a few hours drive or nice ICW cruise - great fishing as well.
Pretty sure hes talking about Venice LA
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Old 05-01-2019, 09:20 AM
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I'm about 50 miles from SPI, and I'd chose Venice.

Wind will most likely be howling down here that time of year.
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I'm about 50 miles from SPI, and I'd chose Venice.

Wind will most likely be howling down here that time of year.
when is the wind most predictable down in Venice?
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Old 05-01-2019, 09:53 AM
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Venice la fishing compared to south padre Is a joke as the fishing in venice is like no where else in the USA. Once you go you will end up wanting to keep it there ha. Wind wise much better chance venice will be calm compared to Texas. Also be careful running the river as navigation can be sketchy for a first timer and its about a 26 mile run one way to get to the gulf. Excellent fishing I'd get a Capt for first timer to show you around however I doubt a captain will go out on a 19 foot boat offshore.
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:10 AM
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Go big - go venice. I'd drive over and charter first however to a get feel for it.
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Is that even a real question? I'm from Texas and I say Venice anytime of the year. No comparison. I have a houseboat booked May 22-26 at Venice marina. It's all that I'm thinking about.
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by arczr2 View Post
Venice la fishing compared to south padre Is a joke as the fishing in venice is like no where else in the USA. Once you go you will end up wanting to keep it there ha. Wind wise much better chance venice will be calm compared to Texas. Also be careful running the river as navigation can be sketchy for a first timer and its about a 26 mile run one way to get to the gulf. Excellent fishing I'd get a Capt for first timer to show you around however I doubt a captain will go out on a 19 foot boat offshore.
yeah everytime I check marine forecast for Venice it's always way better than our local Freeport forecast.
Ive heard the river can be treacherous. Wouldn't even try it if it was foggy.
as for a captain? Let's face it. One big yellowfin and I'd have no room left in the cooler. So I'm fine with the learning curve. Plus anyway calm enough for me there are sure to be plenty other boats to politely spectate. Or talk to other anglers at the lodges.
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Old 05-01-2019, 11:27 AM
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With Venice it is easy to save a day that would otherwise be lost by just coming inshore or fishing near shore on the other side of the river. Summer time won't have the fog concerns
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Originally Posted by M.A.CCruiser View Post
Venice - cruise to Boca Grande - Ft. Myers, Gasparilla Island, Placida, all sorts of places within a few hours drive or nice ICW cruise - great fishing as well.
Wrong Venice...
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I lived in Port Mansfield for 2 years, fished down there for 15. Now keep a boat in Venice, LA and have fished there for over 15...to provide some context.

Three key statements you made:
1) June July
2) Tuna and Mahi
3) 19ft Boat

With those variables the choice is Venice, LA hands down. However, the decision isn't always so simple. While Venice, LA does offer some of the most amazing opportunities in the country it isn't "perfect" like some people make it out to be. Some "half truths"
1) Long river runs are often ignored, 30 miles offshore in Venice is really more like 50. Sure you can shoot out some short passes but those don't get you to "blue water"
2) Ugly, dirty water.....it's not the prettiest place to fish
3) Amenities....there are practically none by comparison

In reality your odds of catching Tuna/Mahi out of Venice, LA in June July are pretty close to zero but they are substantially better than South Texas. Your best bet is to wait and see if there is a rip still around that is close enough to the pass....if you can get the right conditions for a rip just past the 7 mile rigs(30ish from the dock) or in the delta around 143(45ish from the dock) you may be able to check off the mahi and maybe the tuna.

Bottom line....don't go to either place that time of year with the attitude of "Tuna and Mahi or Bust" or you will be grossly disappointed in a 19ft boat. As others have stated Venice, LA will offer some more options on windy days BUT keep in mind there's also no beach or other amenities if you are bringing kids or spouse. Hiding in the marsh in 25 mph winds vs enjoying some nice water on the beach......different strokes for different folks.
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Originally Posted by txtightline View Post
I lived in Port Mansfield for 2 years, fished down there for 15. Now keep a boat in Venice, LA and have fished there for over 15...to provide some context.

Three key statements you made:
1) June July
2) Tuna and Mahi
3) 19ft Boat

With those variables the choice is Venice, LA hands down. However, the decision isn't always so simple. While Venice, LA does offer some of the most amazing opportunities in the country it isn't "perfect" like some people make it out to be. Some "half truths"
1) Long river runs are often ignored, 30 miles offshore in Venice is really more like 50. Sure you can shoot out some short passes but those don't get you to "blue water"
2) Ugly, dirty water.....it's not the prettiest place to fish
3) Amenities....there are practically none by comparison

In reality your odds of catching Tuna/Mahi out of Venice, LA in June July are pretty close to zero but they are substantially better than South Texas. Your best bet is to wait and see if there is a rip still around that is close enough to the pass....if you can get the right conditions for a rip just past the 7 mile rigs(30ish from the dock) or in the delta around 143(45ish from the dock) you may be able to check off the mahi and maybe the tuna.

Bottom line....don't go to either place that time of year with the attitude of "Tuna and Mahi or Bust" or you will be grossly disappointed in a 19ft boat. As others have stated Venice, LA will offer some more options on windy days BUT keep in mind there's also no beach or other amenities if you are bringing kids or spouse. Hiding in the marsh in 25 mph winds vs enjoying some nice water on the beach......different strokes for different folks.
When is the best time to go? I guess I assumed June July would be the best for calmer winds like It typically means in Texas.

I fish galveston so I'm fine with ugly water haha.
And im monitoring the rip charts. It actually looks like right now the blue is pretty close.
Also not married. It will be a guys trip.
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Wrong Venice...
At least he didn't think it was the one with the gondolas
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Old 05-01-2019, 03:25 PM
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When is the best time to go? I guess I assumed June July would be the best for calmer winds like It typically means in Texas.

I fish galveston so I'm fine with ugly water haha.
And im monitoring the rip charts. It actually looks like right now the blue is pretty close.
Also not married. It will be a guys trip.
That changes things......the further east along the gulf coast the more fishable days in general. Venice benefits from that and sees good weather generally late May through early October. If you wanna catch a tuna on a 19ft boat you want to be there in September, hands down in my opinion. Seas are usually very calm, fish start to get close and shrimp boats start showing up. Mahi on the other hand.....May and early June are probably better bets but your odds for Tuna drop a bit in a boat that size. All that said....you can also run out of South Texas in September and see calm seas and catch tuna and usually some mahi around shrimp boats in the late summer as well and believe it or not the runs are about the same...only difference is venice more of the run is in the pass which is nice for a small boat like yours.

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The venice nightlife is second to none!
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Venice or ______________?

Venice 👍
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The venice nightlife is second to none!
Especially when borrowed bean bags are in the mix

OP you have as my dad used to say...champagne tastes and beer money...and I say that in the most light hearted manner

The summer time Venice tuna tend to push out a bit and some days it could be a tall order to find one within 100 miles of VM - not exactly the domain of a 19' anything. You can wear yourself out on AJ, big snapper and grouper within 20 miles of south pass and all of the bull reds you can stand are waiting for you just off the rocks on the way in. That could be a worthy trip if you get the right weather window.

Spend June waxing the boat and hope for a long enough window to go get your 2 snaps.
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June-July'ish. Venice or South Padre?

Been fishing Freeport Tx Gulf and Galveston Bays for the past 5 years. I live in Houston and was considering trailering to Venice or South Padre. I have a 19 ft Sea Hunt with a deeper V decent deadrise and 4stroke Yamaha I trust, insurance for towing boat and trailering issues. Epirb, VHF ext.
Spring is obviously very unpredictable but During the summer I run offshore 30-40 miles out of Freeport confidently when the seas are 1-2's. Yes I always pay attention to wave periods and surrounding weather. Using apps like reefcast and Ripcharts before I go for wind prediction by the hour and water currents and clarity.
Both locations are about equal distance from me. Really wanting to get deeper in that 30 mile mark to try for Tuna and mahi
Of course, only on a nice day. I trust my capabilities and I have the proper safety equipment. Just some dialogue about the fishing and what to expect would be nice!
Thanks!
For a short trip, best odds of catching some good fish and getting a weather window to work Venice is the better choice. But do not think it is worth hauling your boat there. To much stress on the haul and money spent on the extra gas would be better spent on a good guide with the boats to do anything you want.

Venice the place everyone wants to go, but no one wants to stay. Headed there this weekend myself.
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