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Old 02-11-2018, 04:55 AM
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I am searching for a new rig for the upcoming season. Many of the boats that I am looking at have twin 4 stroke yamahas (225,250).
My question is how do you slow troll for walleye with that set up?
I cant really see adding a 3rd motor to the transom. Do trolling bags allow you to get a 250 hp motor down to 1 mph?
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Old 02-11-2018, 06:35 AM
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Troll on 1 motor, use bags, no problem getting to 1 mph. Having said that I will add that I never go that slow for walleye on the east end of erie. My min speed is 1.3 or so. Usually more like 1.6 to 1.8
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With 2 36 inch bags positioned off of midship cleats and tethered back to my stern cleats Icahn get my Regulator as slow as 1.0, pending on the wind you have on different days I sometimes have to drop my trim tabs all the way down and also put the motor that is not running in gear to create more drag. Most days I troll between 1.5-1.7 for walleye, but that is just my preference.
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Troll on 1 motor, use bags, no problem getting to 1 mph. Having said that I will add that I never go that slow for walleye on the east end of erie. My min speed is 1.3 or so. Usually more like 1.6 to 1.8


What are you trolling, harnesses? I like between 1.0-1.3 for harnesses. Sounds like I can get there with bags. I have never used them before, I have always had a kicker motor
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I troll mostly harnesses
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:16 AM
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I have a 25 ft Hydra Sports WA with twin etec 200's. Like others, I have no trouble getting down to 1.0 mph with two bags (36") and one outboard. As mentioned, wind and waves impacts the speed.

On Lake Erie, I mostly fish harnesses and I like them to be trolled at 1.3-1.8 mph most of the year. When running cranks early in the season we run closer the 1.0 mph speed.

Usually, I try and switch which motor I use each time out. Also, I went with larger bags to be able to hit the target speed at/around 1,000 rpm's vs trolling at idle. I was told it is better on the outboards and makes steering easier.
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maybe also troll into the wind to slow you down. Down here we bump a single engine in and out of gear to get really slow...other than that I've not succeeded in getting real slow...2-3 is about as slow as I can get
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Buy a couple different size Trolling Bags depending on conditions and how slow you are looking to get. Rigged off midship / springline cleat and rear trip line off stern cleat. Problem solved
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I troll with Yamaha 225 and can get to 1.0. Like Freebyrd stated having multiple bags gives you many options. I have a pair of 48s that I use at ice out and later switch to a 32 on one side and a 36 on the other. By mid summer I may only use one of those two. If water cools down in November, I sometime bring the 48s back out.
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Trolling bags work quite well. Be very careful of sizes people throw out there as there is no standard of how they're measured. Some producers measure their bags as the distance across the bags opening with the bag laying flat on the ground. Others size their bag as the measurement across the bags front end when it's deployed, or "open diameter". One guys 48" bag when using the same metrics, comes out to a 30" bag when the other guys measuring style is used. I've included both sizing styles on our web site for that reason.

What's been said above is very true. Wind, wave action and current will affect your "net" speed.

What really matters is if the baits on the end of your lines are the right thing at the right speed. This can take a lot of trial and error to learn your boat, and the waters you fish. It's a process.
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I haven't tried it yet, but I was told once that if you can't get down to the speed you want with a bag, pull up a little bit on the rope tied to the smaller end and this will limit the flow of water through the bag slowing you down further.

Anyone ever use this method?
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Originally Posted by Walleye Guy View Post
I haven't tried it yet, but I was told once that if you can't get down to the speed you want with a bag, pull up a little bit on the rope tied to the smaller end and this will limit the flow of water through the bag slowing you down further.

Anyone ever use this method?
You can also pull the outlet end up on the stern cleat. This shaves a tenth or two providing you can keep the forward opening fully open. I do this often. I find it works best on the windward side. Not as effective on the leeward especially if crabbing in stronger winds.
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Originally Posted by blackh2odog View Post
You can also pull the outlet end up on the stern cleat. This shaves a tenth or two providing you can keep the forward opening fully open. I do this often. I find it works best on the windward side. Not as effective on the leeward especially if crabbing in stronger winds.
That was the term I was looking for (outlet end)! Thanks blackh2odog. I would imagine if you closed the outlet end completely, or at least too much, that the inlet would have a tendency to collapse.
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Two 48" bags, running on one 250 will get me just below 1 mph on a calm day in my 315 Pursuit. Play around with the throttle and trim tabs a little and I can usually dial it in.
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Great info guys! Thanks!
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Originally Posted by draggenballs View Post
Two 48" bags, running on one 250 will get me just below 1 mph on a calm day in my 315 Pursuit. Play around with the throttle and trim tabs a little and I can usually dial it in.
What brand bags?
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What brand bags?
There is only one brand of trolling bags to buy and most here will agree. Amish outfitters makes the best trolling bags on the market.
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Well, Classic 25 may disagree, slightly...
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Cove Cruiser, Did you buy your Hydrasport from South Shore last year? Nice boat. I looked at one a few times there last winter, but went a different route.
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Well, Classic 25 may disagree, slightly...
Great product and goes out his way to get you set up correctly!
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