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Tru Trip and Jet Divers Lake Erie walleye

Old 07-04-2019, 12:49 PM
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Is the main difference between a Tru Trip and Jet Diver that the Tru Trip will trip like a Dipsey? Are there any Jet Divers made that have a trip on them so you aren't constantly pulling against the diver itself? I have seen a lot of fishing reports that mention Tru Trip or Jet Diver's but why do you run different sizes for trolling? A Jet Diver size 20 will go down to 20' but can't you simply use a size 40 and just not leave out as much line? Just wondering why you wouldn't just run size 40's and control your depth by letting out more or less line? Why would you buy a Jet Diver and then also buy a Tru Trip that is the same color and size?

Does the color of the diver itself really matter? Since the fish don't bite the diver itself why does it matter what color it is? Do any of you guys catch more fish on a specific size and/or color of diver? I have Dipsey's but I really don't like them for walleye because if I adjust the trip to light than I get nuisance trips and if I adjust them to heavy they won't trip with a small fish. Can you adjust the Tru Trips more accurately than a Dipsy so you don't get nuisance trips yet it will trip with a smaller size fish?
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Old 07-04-2019, 03:29 PM
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TruTrips have an adjustable setting similar to a dipsey.

Each of the sizes has their own depth curve. 40s work great off of big boards. 40s worknon inlines but are not as easy. 30s run on inlines but take more line out as compared to the 40s.

I run TT 50s off the corners similar to a dipsey at a 0 setting.

Dipseys are the fastest way to set, catch and reset. I love dipsey programs.

You if you run multiples on one side you can see if you have small fish or grass.

You should go on a teaching charter. Make sure the charter is going to fish how you intend to set up your boat. Big boards or small boards.

All rods should be the same, and Rod holders are important so you can visually see the rods bend. Any small fish will change the rod curve.
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Old 07-04-2019, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by blackh2odog View Post
TruTrips have an adjustable setting similar to a dipsey.

Each of the sizes has their own depth curve. 40s work great off of big boards. 40s worknon inlines but are not as easy. 30s run on inlines but take more line out as compared to the 40s.

I run TT 50s off the corners similar to a dipsey at a 0 setting.

Dipseys are the fastest way to set, catch and reset. I love dipsey programs.

You if you run multiples on one side you can see if you have small fish or grass.

You should go on a teaching charter. Make sure the charter is going to fish how you intend to set up your boat. Big boards or small boards.

All rods should be the same, and Rod holders are important so you can visually see the rods bend. Any small fish will change the rod curve.
Thanks for the info. Yes I want to go on a teaching charter, I don't even want to keep the walleye so if someone will take me I will be happy to pay or even mate for free and give my limit of walleye to anyone else on the boat. I don't even care about actually fishing, I just want to watch and learn.
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Old 07-04-2019, 04:46 PM
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I always learn something new reading these forums so thank you guys. I had no idea you could adjust the sensitivity of the tripping mechanism on the dipsys and TTs. I actually threw away a couple brand new 40TTs because they would trip so easily I just assumed they were faulty. And on the other end of the spectrum, I've been experimenting with dipsys the past couple of days and I wasted so much time unaware that I was dragging smaller junk fish bc the dipsys weren't tripping.
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Old 07-05-2019, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RussH View Post
Thanks for the info. Yes I want to go on a teaching charter, I don't even want to keep the walleye so if someone will take me I will be happy to pay or even mate for free and give my limit of walleye to anyone else on the boat. I don't even care about actually fishing, I just want to watch and learn.
I have a smaller boat and do not use a first mate.
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Old 07-05-2019, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by blackh2odog View Post
I have a smaller boat and do not use a first mate.
I wasn't asking to go with you.....but if you invite me I will be happy to pay fuel and all expenses.
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I have used both tru trips and 40 jets. The tru trips you can adjust the tension just like the dipsy's. What happens with the jet divers when you catch a fish the weight of the fish flips the jet upside down. Therefore it comes up to the surface with the walleye behind it. If I had to pick one or the other I would go with the jets, just because they are simple to use. The walleye bite has been on absolute fire out of Lorain lately. Went 4 days in a row earlier this week and limited out before 8:30am on all days. Dipsy and spoon bite has been hot.
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Old 07-08-2019, 06:03 AM
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Jets were the go to until the TruTrips came to market. I have a box full of old jets. Of the charters I know that still use Jets, they have modified with a trip set that makes them stop diving when released just like TruTrip.

The TT also have a steeper dive curve meaning less line out on each set. Less line equals less chance of fish loss and less chance of crossed lines or tangles.

Another advantage is small fish do not always roll a Jet where the TruTrip will release when properly set.

If resetting your spread, to adjust depths, you have to crank in against the Jet, with a TT you pop and retrieve with no resistance. Meaning you get a quicker reset with TT and lures back in water working quicker.

No doubt, Jets work, however I will never go back to Jets. I have a box full of them in the basement..
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Originally Posted by RussH View Post
Thanks for the info. Yes I want to go on a teaching charter, I don't even want to keep the walleye so if someone will take me I will be happy to pay or even mate for free and give my limit of walleye to anyone else on the boat. I don't even care about actually fishing, I just want to watch and learn.
Russ, I will be fishing this week Wednesday thru Saturday pm me which day you would like to go. I should have room for you. I run tru trip jets and a dipsy program. If you want to learn Iíll teach you. Iím right over at Tibbels so Iím not far from you.
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Originally Posted by mkalink View Post

Russ, I will be fishing this week Wednesday thru Saturday pm me which day you would like to go. I should have room for you. I run tru trip jets and a dipsy program. If you want to learn I’ll teach you. I’m right over at Tibbels so I’m not far from you.

I took yesterday and today off hoping to fish both days but I didn't go yesterday because of the strong NE winds. I went out this afternoon and caught my limit quick and fun fished catch & release, I don't know how many I threw back but I was having a hard time keeping 2 lines in the water. Fish were high because no boats running around me so a 5 count was the best.

I have to go back to work tomorrow, and Saturday we are going to a grad party and have to leave late morning. Thank you very much for the offer and I will for sure take a raincheck. I will only be able to go on Saturday or Sunday the rest of the year, no more vacation time until November. If you have a Saturday or Sunday open after this coming week let me know and I will take you up on your offer.
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Use Big Jon mini disk's or tadpoles and you won't have the problem of "tripping". IMO the jet's pull way too hard compared to the two items I mentioned. I'm assuming you're pulling spoons or harnesses.
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I don't know if the boat traffic is affecting the bite in the western basin, but here in the central basin when there's a lot of boat traffic, you can actually watch fish heading for the bottom on the sounder as you pass over them. I'll have to take a picture the next time I'm out in a heavy traffic area.
The solution we've found is to go with the smaller jets and divers and going with 2-6X out on the line. This gets the baits waaaay away from the boat and the undisturbed fish will usually hit. We got 12 in about 45 minutes the other night when the regulars were sticking with their regular program catching zilch.
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I don't know if the boat traffic is affecting the bite in the western basin, but here in the central basin when there's a lot of boat traffic, you can actually watch fish heading for the bottom on the sounder as you pass over them. I'll have to take a picture the next time I'm out in a heavy traffic area.
The solution we've found is to go with the smaller jets and divers and going with 2-6X out on the line. This gets the baits waaaay away from the boat and the undisturbed fish will usually hit. We got 12 in about 45 minutes the other night when the regulars were sticking with their regular program catching zilch.
It's a royal pain that so many people on the lake will just run wherever they want without knowing they are screwing up your fishing. I have no doubt in my mind that the fish drop down or totally scatter when boats go over them. I like to fish the shallow rocky areas and often I fish in 10' or less of water. Seems like it never fails that someone will run right over my drift line and there goes the fishing. Another thing that I see all the time are guys that drive back to the beginning of a drift and run on their own drift line instead of moving off of their drift line when motoring back to the top of their drift.

I always look at the boats in an area and figure out where to run where I won't screw up their drift but I would say the majority of guys don't do it. I was out today and was catching some small walleyes that I was throwing back and when I turned to go back and drift over the same area some yahoo will run right over the shallow water I'm fishing instead of just looping around me. Earlier this week I went out after work and was catching a walleye on almost every cast and as usual boats run right over my drift.
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