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Old 02-14-2019, 10:40 AM
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Looking for tips to get some bigger mutton snappers off boca/Hillsboro. We chum the reef fairly regularly as my wife really enjoys it and have no problem loading the coolers with YT but we only tend to seem to get 16/17 inch muttons. We usually anchor up in around 55-65 feet.

Do I need to aim deeper to get some bigger snapper species?
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Old 02-14-2019, 11:32 AM
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yes, head deeper to reef and wrecks
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Old 02-14-2019, 11:33 AM
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Big boys are deeeeeeepppppp. Like 120-200
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Old 02-14-2019, 12:11 PM
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Im in Jupiter, but we start in 100 ft. 20ft fluro I know guys who use 60ft of fluro
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:50 PM
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Big boys are deeeeeeepppppp. Like 120-200
fish these depths, basically the sand outside the deeper reef, use loooooong leaders, gogs for bait
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Our biggest have all come from on the edges of natural reef using a single dead sardine with a six foot leader on a sliding sinker. However our biggest ever hit a flat line baited with a sardine on top with no wheight back in the chumslick. I think your 55 foot area could be better after dark.

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Old 02-14-2019, 02:17 PM
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160-110 drift in the sand. Use heavy bank led 12oz usually works. Triple swivel 30-40ft of 30-40lb fluro half a dead gog or whole dead sardine. Seems to work best for me. Make sure the bait stays on the bottom dragging. Mutton’s get attracted to the sand trail. Just make sure you reel up before you get to hard bottom.
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Old 02-15-2019, 09:01 AM
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thanks guys.. are you guys still heavy chumming on these dropper drifts?

I figure ill try a few of these sand drifts in the 200-120 range then if I cant get dialed in, then I can anchor outside the third reef in 90-120 foot and chummer up and see what happens.
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Old 02-15-2019, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nhartt88 View Post
thanks guys.. are you guys still heavy chumming on these dropper drifts?

I figure ill try a few of these sand drifts in the 200-120 range then if I cant get dialed in, then I can anchor outside the third reef in 90-120 foot and chummer up and see what happens.
I don't chum on my drifts personally, and use a looooong leader
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Old 02-15-2019, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by nhartt88 View Post
thanks guys.. are you guys still heavy chumming on these dropper drifts?

I figure ill try a few of these sand drifts in the 200-120 range then if I cant get dialed in, then I can anchor outside the third reef in 90-120 foot and chummer up and see what happens.
We chum on anchor, not drifting. Usualy limit out on kingfish within a half hour.
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I like to use waxline rather than the 3 way swivel (I don't like swivels). I mark waxline to my main line about 100 feet with a loop. I attach my weight there. Pretty similar to my swordfishing setup, I adapted to muttons with good success.

I have a dedicated mutton rod out when I'm drifting with kites, etc.
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Old 02-16-2019, 06:32 AM
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Just starting to get into bottom fishing as well. Normally drift with live bait and a kite. Always have a bottom rod but haven't targeted them explicitly.

Going out tomorrow to give this a shot.

Planning to start off by catching some ballyhoo. Will also have a dozen pilchards just in case.

This week I used Navionics to try and find some sharper drop offs along the second reef from ~65 up to ~45 or so. Plan to drive the sand along these drop offs.

I'm OK with catching a few shorts to dial in the tactic. If we are catching will head to the deeper depths to see if we can't get some keepers.
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Not to hi jack thread but what size of hooks to use? Going to be in Bahamas in a month and plan on reef fishing. Last year got a ton of smaller yt but looking to get some larger mutton

thanks
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Old 02-16-2019, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by meritmat View Post
Not to hi jack thread but what size of hooks to use? Going to be in Bahamas in a month and plan on reef fishing. Last year got a ton of smaller yt but looking to get some larger mutton

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For fishing ballyhoo, I use mustad ultrapoint 3/0 with a piece of copper wire to wrap around the bill.
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:37 AM
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Not to hi jack thread but what size of hooks to use? Going to be in Bahamas in a month and plan on reef fishing. Last year got a ton of smaller yt but looking to get some larger mutton

thanks
We only keep the smaller one when fishing the reef.The higher probability of Ciguatera poisoning in the Bahamas isn't worth it for us.
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Old 02-16-2019, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Lu 1967 View Post
We only keep the smaller one when fishing the reef.The higher probability of Ciguatera poisoning in the Bahamas isn't worth it for us.
ive never heard of ciguatera in muttons, only larger grouper and hogs.
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ive never heard of ciguatera in muttons, only larger grouper and hogs.

the guy i rent the boat from warned me about the big grouper. He caught a good sized one and had some, spent the next day living on the shitter. Guess I better find out what size is safe to eat
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Old 02-16-2019, 02:56 PM
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Er, since I am just getting into fishing, what qualifies as "larger" and "good sized"? That picture of the next day takes away from the joy of catching a big one for sure.
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Use a long leader (25ft) and go light (30lbs if what I like). My spots vary from the 120ft line to 240ft . Drift it across a spot your sonar is showing some life. My preferred bait is live ballyhoo
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Use a long leader (25ft) and go light (30lbs if what I like). My spots vary from the 120ft line to 240ft . Drift it across a spot your sonar is showing some life. My preferred bait is live ballyhoo
Thats a nice mangrove. Ive never seen a Cobia without coming bolsters.
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