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Old 02-06-2019, 01:20 PM
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Looking for some guidance as to our situation here in St Pete. We live on a channel right on Tampa Bay, the channel off our docks is protected water, protected by flats, usually keeping the water very calm. It is a perfect area for go fast boats to do speed runs. This results in boats passing about 30'-50' off our docks at speeds in excess of 70-80-90-100MPH sometimes throwing a rooster tail. Pretty bad-ass right? Yeah it is kinda cool to see so close, but seriously, I think this is extremely dangerous. Just the other day a go-fast cat went by, hauling ass, and his boat was walking sponson to sponson, I was expecting him to lose it and hit a dock. This community has lost of folks and kids that kayak and paddle board, I fear that one day something very bad is going to happen.

Is anyone one aware of any laws with regards to this type of boat operation and/or who I should contact to ask?
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I always thought most channels were 30 MPH.

What area of the bay?
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Looking for some guidance as to our situation here in St Pete. We live on a channel right on Tampa Bay, the channel off our docks is protected water, protected by flats, usually keeping the water very calm. It is a perfect area for go fast boats to do speed runs. This results in boats passing about 30'-50' off our docks at speeds in excess of 70-80-90-100MPH sometimes throwing a rooster tail. Pretty bad-ass right? Yeah it is kinda cool to see so close, but seriously, I think this is extremely dangerous. Just the other day a go-fast cat went by, hauling ass, and his boat was walking sponson to sponson, I was expecting him to lose it and hit a dock. This community has lost of folks and kids that kayak and paddle board, I fear that one day something very bad is going to happen.

Is anyone one aware of any laws with regards to this type of boat operation and/or who I should contact to ask?
pic of girls on the go fast boat?
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The term ''Normal Safe Operation'' comes to mind when defining Florida waterway speed limits. I have been under the impression that if there is no sign telling me ''no wake'', ''slow wake'' or speed limit is then the "Normal Safe Operation'' is in effect. Whatever that means.

Is a go-fast that can do 100mph operating in a normal safe manner?

Contact your local water patrol and get their take on it. Grab some videos to show, maybe they will put a couple of signs up for you
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I always thought most channels were 30 MPH.

What area of the bay?
south of Venetian Islands North of Snell Isle




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pic of girls on the go fast boat?
that is one of the frustrations, they are going too fast.
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I know that channel very well. Gets shallow pretty quick near those flats. Seems a bit dangerous. Docks on one side shallow flats on the other.

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I know the area well . Anything over 25/30 is dangerous! Channel is very narrow in a few spots . There are plenty of other spots to open her up , thatís definitely not the place. They need a talking to at minimum.
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Originally Posted by scrapper01 View Post
Looking for some guidance as to our situation here in St Pete. We live on a channel right on Tampa Bay, the channel off our docks is protected water, protected by flats, usually keeping the water very calm. It is a perfect area for go fast boats to do speed runs. This results in boats passing about 30'-50' off our docks at speeds in excess of 70-80-90-100MPH sometimes throwing a rooster tail. Pretty bad-ass right? Yeah it is kinda cool to see so close, but seriously, I think this is extremely dangerous. Just the other day a go-fast cat went by, hauling ass, and his boat was walking sponson to sponson, I was expecting him to lose it and hit a dock. This community has lost of folks and kids that kayak and paddle board, I fear that one day something very bad is going to happen.

Is anyone one aware of any laws with regards to this type of boat operation and/or who I should contact to ask?
That shore line is well known and deep. The bar is to the outside and your dock is on that narrow run. It starts from Pinellas point and runs to the Vinoy inside of the bar. Then starts again.

Me personally would not have bought there and think I want to change what has been there for a long time.

It's dangerous and narrow and I have done 60 plus all day there many times and there are some sharp corners.

You need to have a few folks killed to get anywhere with your complaint. To my knowledge it's not happened yet by miracle.

I will agree that run is crazy if you know how to run it inside. That curve at the Red Condos is the shit and the channel is 10 feet off the docks.
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Old 02-06-2019, 04:29 PM
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That shore line is well known and deep. The bar is to the outside and your dock is on that narrow run. It starts from Pinellas point and runs to the Vinoy inside of the bar. Then starts again.

Me personally would not have bought there and think I want to change what has been there for a long time.

It's dangerous and narrow and I have done 60 plus all day there many times and there are some sharp corners.

You need to have a few folks killed to get anywhere with your complaint. To my knowledge it's not happened yet by miracle.

I will agree that run is crazy if you know how to run it inside. That curve at the Red Condos is the shit and the channel is 10 feet off the docks.

This area is north of downtown, you are talking about south of downtown, but either way they are similar.
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Originally Posted by Pro69SS View Post
I know the area well . Anything over 25/30 is dangerous! Channel is very narrow in a few spots . There are plenty of other spots to open her up , thatís definitely not the place. They need a talking to at minimum.
Anything over 25/30 is dangerous according to who?
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Who's going to "give them a talking to" ?

Unless there is an actual law being violated, you're SOL.

If you've got a law violation, then get with the PD or SO. Seems like a channel that close to the docks should have a speed limit. But does it?

​​​​​​And I'm not a speed guy. If I saw what was described, I'd probably think it was dangerous too. But, you're wasting your time if you can't cite CFR, state statute, or city/county ordinance.
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This area is north of downtown, you are talking about south of downtown, but either way they are similar.
Yep,

The same and I have run it more than most folks have been around these parts. Come out north of the VINOY and shit and get down the shore line as the bar outside makes it smooth on the worst days. Twists and turns close to docks with blind corners all day all the way to Weedon Island.

It is in fact amazing that run at speed is allowed all the way to Pinellas point to the north of there.

I agree it's a cluster F and the day will come when it will stop.

Wasn't so bad when us guys in skiffs were hugging that edge and running 30 MPH.

I run max speed when I run it now when the straight a ways are giving me a good shot visibility wise just to get the F out of there.

Now, every haul ass boat runs it to look at [email protected] on the docks and property with pools along that stretch while blasting their music like a bunch of idiots.

If I had my way that entire stretch of sea wall and docks would be a mangrove shoreline instead of concrete.

Those complaining about it got just what they paid for.
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You want to see some real extreme speeds come on over to the St.Johns on a nice weekend. Those boys fly!!!
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The same and I have run it more than most folks have been around these parts. Come out north of the VINOY and shit and get down the shore line as the bar outside makes it smooth on the worst days. Twists and turns close to docks with blind corners all day all the way to Weedon Island.

It is in fact amazing that run at speed is allowed all the way to Pinellas point to the north of there.

I agree it's a cluster F and the day will come when it will stop.

Wasn't so bad when us guys in skiffs were hugging that edge and running 30 MPH.

I run max speed when I run it now when the straight a ways are giving me a good shot visibility wise just to get the F out of there.

Now, every haul ass boat runs it to look at [email protected] on the docks and property with pools along that stretch while blasting their music like a bunch of idiots.

If I had my way that entire stretch of sea wall and docks would be a mangrove shoreline instead of concrete.

Those complaining about it got just what they paid for.

what is your max speed?
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If itís not a idle zone or a slow speed zone nothing you can do. To get a new idle zone is next to impossible. It took many injuryís and a few deaths along with a few years of hard work to get one at whisky joes off the causeway. Itís not posted yet but will be very soon.

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Complain to the FWC that they are creating a dangerous situation. They might patrol it a few times which will at least slow them down a little.

I live on the ICW where we have a 25 MPH limit. Every weekend, go fast cats and V bottoms come by at ludicrous speeds. Doesn't really bother me as I love the sound but my neighbors have complained to FWC and they now run radar on this stretch from time to time. I've seen a few cats come by at what I'm positive was in excess of 130 MPH. It was pretty bad ass but it really does create a tricky situation with all of the kayakers, pontoon boots, PI ferry, etc. The open gulf was made for running hard at those speeds.
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If itís not a idle zone or a slow speed zone nothing you can do. To get a new idle zone is next to impossible. It took many injuryís and a few deaths along with a few years of hard work to get one at whisky joes off the causeway. Itís not posted yet but will be very soon.

I would never want it to be an idle zone or slow speed zone. Maybe a max speed zone of 40 or something, just not unlimited like the Autobahn.
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I agree with Biminitwist. We should petition the FWC to remove the seawall and docks so it can be mangroves and natural habitat. Either that or stop/outlaw the canal dredging so the boats have to cruise out farther form the shore line. No need for boat access there so close to delicate flats and shoreline. It will be better for the eco system, fishing, wildlife and safer for everyone. I'll talk to FWC about it, i have a good friend on the commission.

Next up, the lady who bought a house on Route 41 is complaining that cars drive to fast on the busy highway. We should reduce the speed limit on it to 25 mph so it is safer for her kids that play in her yard.
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I would never want it to be an idle zone or slow speed zone. Maybe a max speed zone of 40 or something, just not unlimited like the Autobahn.
You need a few manatees around there. That will get it done.

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