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Was a big proponent of VRBO before they were acquired by Expedia. Now they control everything about the rental process including collection of funds. Hate not being able to talk to my potential guests prior to renting the house out.

Will not re-sign with them.
Anyone have any luck with any of the other sites? I see Air BnB is similar.

Thanks in advance for suggestions!

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I've used both VRBO and Airbnb...

Airbnb seems to be the trend nowadays...

Didn't know about Expedia buying VRBO...

Are they still owned by Microsoft?
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I've used both VRBO and Airbnb...

Airbnb seems to be the trend nowadays...

Didn't know about Expedia buying VRBO...

Are they still owned by Microsoft?
Used to have no problem renting with VRBO. The prospect contacted me directly. I was able to vet them and discuss the terms, neighborhood, etc. Now the prospect has to pay Expedia $125 to book. I don't get to talk with them until after they have booked and they send the payment to Expedia which then sends it to our account after charging us an additional 5% fee!

Don't know about the MS ownership.

There is a huge market to tap into for any web savvy folks.
Start a vacation rental site and keep it simple and affordable for ALL people involved!
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I’m on HomeAway.com, they are trying the pay thru web site thing, but so far I have been dealing direct with clients, been with them for 15 years at least.

they attach their fee to the renters when they go thru site. I still send my written lease with terms of payment.

check it out, I believe they are attached somehow to VRBO
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THT should set up a vacation rental forum. I'd just as soon rent from a member whenI travel. Same set up as boats for sale.
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I’m not an owner, I’m a renter. One of the properties we rent goes through Vacasa. As a renter they have been nice to work with.
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Subscribed. I’m also looking for an alternative to list my vacation rental property. Not happy with vrbo.
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As a 10 year VRBO renter THEY SUCK! Greedy buggers won't let you even communicate with prospective renters. If ANYONE comes up with an alternative site I will be gone in a hertbeat. Wish my repeats had the sense to contact me direct!
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Yes VRBO used to be a good way to rent. Not anymore
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I listed recently on a start up website called TRIPZ.com

Haven't gotten a single inquiry. Don't think they are doing much in the way of marketing. Website is nice and it was simple to subscribe. But if nobody knows how to find you what good is it.

Going to give Trip Advisor a shot. They are free to list but charge a 3% fee for booking

I'll post up how it goes
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As a frequent VBRO renter, I always send the owner a
message and communicate before sending any money. Would never consider renting s private house or condo without doing so.
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Originally Posted by 787337 View Post
As a frequent VBRO renter, I always send the owner a
message and communicate before sending any money. Would never consider renting s private house or condo without doing so.
VRBO is doing their best at preventing this communication now. I still try me best however like others, im done with VRBO and working on finding another site. They are worse than photobucket with their outrageous policies and fees. They ruined a good thing.

i signed up with a tripadvisor listing a month ago but havent gotten any inquires through them yet.

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VRBO is doing their best at preventing this communication now. I still try me best however like others, im done with VRBO and working on finding another site. They are worse than photobucket with their outrageous policies and fees. They ruined a good thing.

i signed up with a tripadvisor listing a month ago but havent gotten any inquires through them yet.

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I was going to sign up with trip advisor today hoping that would generate some activity.
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Same here............VRBO sucks now
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I spent much of my morning looking over different rental sites and found this one. It is very user friendly and easy to set up your listing.
Costs range from $149 to $599 depending on how many photos and how much site exposure you want. The guests contact you directly and pay you directly. The site does not take commission or money from your listing.

I chose the $149 package that includes 24 photos and 1 video of your property. Took about an hour to set it up and they ask for a utility bill or license from the town for verification that you own the listing.
I think this site will fill my needs. They are hooked up with several tourist websites including Visit Florida.
Here is a link to their website.
Sorry for those outside of Florida, this site is only for Florida properties but I am sure once they get this one cranking it will expand.

https://www.floridarentalbyowners.com/
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Here is the listing to our property to give you an idea of what it looks like

https://www.floridarentalbyowners.com/listing.1064
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Originally Posted by signmansez View Post
Was a big proponent of VRBO before they were acquired by Expedia. Now they control everything about the rental process including collection of funds. Hate not being able to talk to my potential guests prior to renting the house out.

Will not re-sign with them.
Anyone have any luck with any of the other sites? I see Air BnB is similar.

Thanks in advance for suggestions!
I am in exactly your situation. Thinking AirBnb, but still undecided. My VRBO listing runs out in January, and I am not re-listing.

Here is my farewell letter to them::

"What made VRBO distinctive in the beginning was two words in the name, “By Owner”. The beauty of the original VRBO platform was that the renter gets to deal directly with the owner and the owner gets to deal directly with the renter. As you can readily see from the reviews on my listing, that relationship has worked exceptionally well for me and my renters. I had similar success with a SWFL listing until that property was destroyed by Irma. By diminishing, even virtually eliminating, the “By Owner” aspect of the site, Expedia is destroying the very thing that made the platform so wildly popular in the first place. Now VRBO will be just like any other generic vacation rental site, where both ends of the transaction are locked into little boxes. If I’m a renter, why not just book through a local vacation rental site? I used VRBO to book my own vacations for years before I ever listed property as an owner, and it was precisely so that I could deal with the owner, which is usually a much more pleasant experience than dealing with an agency, because it is personal, and owners are often more flexible.

Unfortunately, the smart Expedia boys with MBAs decided they could monetize the platform exponentially by clipping every renter for a fee, the “service fee”. The only way to effectively accomplish this is to force every owner to book only through VRBO because no renter would pay for the “Book with Confidence Guarantee” voluntarily. Why? Because it is something they do not need and do not want, just an extra cost. It is akin to a lender forcing every borrower to purchase credit life insurance, the biggest rip-off in the insurance market, as a condition of the loan. It is, in a word, a scam, that adds value only to VRBO while diminishing the value of the platform to owners and renters. In my humble opinion, you are destroying what made VRBO the premiere vacation rental site. I have jumped through all the little hoops you set up to get my page active again, but I really question the value of our relationship going forward. I will explore other platforms. Why shouldn’t I go with Airbnb if VRBO is trying to be just like it? I know I am only one owner, and no doubt the revenue you’ll generate from clipping every rental dwarfs the ad revenue generated by the prior model, and so I don’t expect to accomplish much with this little missive, but perhaps it will go up the line and be heard by someone working in a policy-making capacity. Maybe Dara Khosrowshahi will take a look. He needs to.

It is with regret that I write this letter, as I have long been one of VRBO’s biggest fans, recommending it to everyone. No more. And please spare me the sales pitch on creating a “great experience” for renters. We were doing fine with that before the smart MBA money boys got their big ideas. My reviews are
testament to that. I keep my calendar up to date, and respond to enquiries as timely as possible, but as my own schedule permits. I do not want to have automated “decline” emails going out if I cannot respond within 24 hours. It takes the process out of my hands with no added value to my renters. I do not need or want greater volume – I am a single homeowner running this myself for my own benefit, not a rental agency, and I am not looking to book every day of the year. I am only looking to offset the expenses of ownership without forfeiting use of the property myself. As such, I represent the forgotten man in Expedia’s equation. Mr. Khosrowshahi you need to figure out a way to accommodate owners like me while you pursue your world-beater strategy of conquering Airbnb. I am very unhappy with your new platform."


I did a little research and found there are many disgruntled former VRBO owners, some even organized, and I think at least one which has filed a class action suit.

Anyway, I'm going to follow this thread. This absolutely represents an opportunity for another venture to pick up a lot of great rental properties.

Thanks for posting.
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The site that I just listed on, Florida Rental By Owner, is VRBO before Expedia bought them. No commissions, fees or surcharges to the guest or owner. You pick the package you want and list your property. It's that simple.

I called the number provided and talked to one of the owners of the site! I had a question regarding when my listing would go live. She said she was reviewing it as we were speaking. I had to provide proof of ownership with a utility bill or business license. Within ten minutes I was in business.

She sent me an email with a couple of suggestions for my listing and all was good.

Now waiting for the phone to ring.
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Originally Posted by signmansez View Post
Here is the listing to our property to give you an idea of what it looks like

https://www.floridarentalbyowners.com/listing.1064
Listing looks good. I may have to plan a stay soon!
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I am in exactly your situation. Thinking AirBnb, but still undecided. My VRBO listing runs out in January, and I am not re-listing.

Here is my farewell letter to them::

"What made VRBO distinctive in the beginning was two words in the name, “By Owner”. The beauty of the original VRBO platform was that the renter gets to deal directly with the owner and the owner gets to deal directly with the renter. As you can readily see from the reviews on my listing, that relationship has worked exceptionally well for me and my renters. I had similar success with a SWFL listing until that property was destroyed by Irma. By diminishing, even virtually eliminating, the “By Owner” aspect of the site, Expedia is destroying the very thing that made the platform so wildly popular in the first place. Now VRBO will be just like any other generic vacation rental site, where both ends of the transaction are locked into little boxes. If I’m a renter, why not just book through a local vacation rental site? I used VRBO to book my own vacations for years before I ever listed property as an owner, and it was precisely so that I could deal with the owner, which is usually a much more pleasant experience than dealing with an agency, because it is personal, and owners are often more flexible.

Unfortunately, the smart Expedia boys with MBAs decided they could monetize the platform exponentially by clipping every renter for a fee, the “service fee”. The only way to effectively accomplish this is to force every owner to book only through VRBO because no renter would pay for the “Book with Confidence Guarantee” voluntarily. Why? Because it is something they do not need and do not want, just an extra cost. It is akin to a lender forcing every borrower to purchase credit life insurance, the biggest rip-off in the insurance market, as a condition of the loan. It is, in a word, a scam, that adds value only to VRBO while diminishing the value of the platform to owners and renters. In my humble opinion, you are destroying what made VRBO the premiere vacation rental site. I have jumped through all the little hoops you set up to get my page active again, but I really question the value of our relationship going forward. I will explore other platforms. Why shouldn’t I go with Airbnb if VRBO is trying to be just like it? I know I am only one owner, and no doubt the revenue you’ll generate from clipping every rental dwarfs the ad revenue generated by the prior model, and so I don’t expect to accomplish much with this little missive, but perhaps it will go up the line and be heard by someone working in a policy-making capacity. Maybe Dara Khosrowshahi will take a look. He needs to.

It is with regret that I write this letter, as I have long been one of VRBO’s biggest fans, recommending it to everyone. No more. And please spare me the sales pitch on creating a “great experience” for renters. We were doing fine with that before the smart MBA money boys got their big ideas. My reviews are
testament to that. I keep my calendar up to date, and respond to enquiries as timely as possible, but as my own schedule permits. I do not want to have automated “decline” emails going out if I cannot respond within 24 hours. It takes the process out of my hands with no added value to my renters. I do not need or want greater volume – I am a single homeowner running this myself for my own benefit, not a rental agency, and I am not looking to book every day of the year. I am only looking to offset the expenses of ownership without forfeiting use of the property myself. As such, I represent the forgotten man in Expedia’s equation. Mr. Khosrowshahi you need to figure out a way to accommodate owners like me while you pursue your world-beater strategy of conquering Airbnb. I am very unhappy with your new platform."


I did a little research and found there are many disgruntled former VRBO owners, some even organized, and I think at least one which has filed a class action suit.

Anyway, I'm going to follow this thread. This absolutely represents an opportunity for another venture to pick up a lot of great rental properties.

Thanks for posting.
this is a link to the law firm and the class action you were talking about. Interesting.
https://chimicles.com/chimicles-tike...-vrbo-website/

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