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We loved Eleuthera... I guess so does Disney.

Old 10-20-2018, 05:23 AM
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Default We loved Eleuthera... I guess so does Disney.

Disney wins tentative approval from Bahamas for a cruise port on the island of Eleuthera - Los Angeles Times

Meh.
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Old 10-20-2018, 05:45 AM
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Dammit.
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Old 10-20-2018, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by flophouse View Post
Dammit.
Yeah... I'm happy that the people will have work and economic gain... but I think long-term it will harm them.

OTOH, A lot of these projects never start... although the one on Little San seems to still be active when we passed it in July.
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It seems like every time our economy pops all sorts of Bahamian schemes are hatched and then when reality sets in they are left with hole lot of nothing except bulldozer scars.
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Little San Sal is a going concern, (Half Moon Cay, Holland America)
Princess Cay, south Eleuthera is also.
Disney has to do the environmental study etc and get to a "head of Agreement" with Govt. That could take time.
Quite Frankly seems The P.M. was in their pocket from scratch, typical though.
Will not creat any new Jobs, but will steal employees from Half Moon cay, no longer having to get up early for the ferry boat to work from Eleuthera.
Half Moon will probably have to revert to Cat Island for employees, which didn't work out well last go round.
Between half Moon and Princess the employables all had jobs.
Crazy really.
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^^ Some good points!
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Added to the BS line that Disney will give public access to the site, which they cannot due to Homeland security type rules imposed by U.S. govt.
They've said they'll allow local access but will basically cry that they cannot due to those rules.
Seems even a mouse can out negotiate our idiots.
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Originally Posted by Capt Odyssea View Post
Added to the BS line that Disney will give public access to the site, which they cannot due to Homeland security type rules imposed by U.S. govt.
They've said they'll allow local access but will basically cry that they cannot due to those rules.
Seems even a mouse can out negotiate our idiots.
The mouse has screwed Florida day in and day out. Public access comes with the mouses fee if you get it.
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Mouse already has one Island, Castaway Cay.
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:38 PM
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The mouse has left two other environmental disasters behind in the Bahamas aside Castaway Cay,
East end Grand Bahama they left a mess after the Pirates of the caribbean movies, and Guana cay Abaco and that spoil island they left behind.
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Yep, Disney tried to develop Egg Island in N. Eleuthera which is very likely one of the top ten sensitive ecological sites in the Bahamas. The public outcry was brutal. They backed out.
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Originally Posted by Capt Odyssea View Post
The mouse has left two other environmental disasters behind in the Bahamas aside Castaway Cay,
East end Grand Bahama they left a mess after the Pirates of the caribbean movies, and Guana cay Abaco and that spoil island they left behind.
say more? Wasn’t aware of either, and I like Guana as well as the area around McLean’s Town
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Another beautiful place to be ruined by cruise ships. Worst example I ever saw was Grand Turk. Absolutely stunning place that was relatively difficult to get to. Now theres zip lines, parasailing, and a margaritaville.
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Originally Posted by griff12ga View Post


say more? Wasn’t aware of either, and I like Guana as well as the area around McLean’s Town

Whale Cay Channel. And the old abandoned Disney buildings at bakers bay. Other than the channel, I think the buildings are all gone now
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It would be much nicer is developers would develop limited areas of the Bahamas where people can actually enjoy the Bahamas. Not some big ass resort that could be in the middle of Oklahoma. Where the beauty and water were the attraction, not the swim up bar.

My wife and I learned long ago...when you vacation with the masses, you are just one of the masses. You can't pay me to go to a Mega resort. fuck that.
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Originally Posted by 37IslandHopper View Post
Whale Cay Channel. And the old abandoned Disney buildings at bakers bay. Other than the channel, I think the buildings are all gone now
The entire northern third of Guana Cay is now the exclusive and private Baker's Bay community, comprised of multi-million dollar homes. Those old Disney buildings are long gone. Spoil Bank Cay is actually a great spot to relax and go shelling.

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Originally Posted by Jason5543 View Post
The entire norther third of Guana Cay is now the exclusive and private Baker's Bay community, comprised of multi-million dollar homes. Those old Disney buildings are long gone. Spoil Bank Cay is actually a great spot to relax and go shelling.

Yeah. I been there. Know all about Bakers development. But couldn't remember if all the old Disney structures were gone.

A few years back my kids had a hermit crab race on spoil bank cay.
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Unless Disney was the Big Red boat they had nothing to do with Guana.

This new development will have zero impact cruisers or visitors, and will bring jobs to locals.

That end of Eleuthera gets very few visitors
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Originally Posted by ychtcptn View Post
Unless Disney was the Big Red boat they had nothing to do with Guana.

This new development will have zero impact cruisers or visitors, and will bring jobs to locals.

That end of Eleuthera gets very few visitors
It was the Big Red Boat and Disney.
Bakers Bay, is what it is. A Place for the wealthy to play, didn't really affect much, although there was a ton of Hubub.
The Spoil Island is fine, didn't change a thing, good place to hang out.
There are two ships that hang out at two Islands in the Berrys, Stirrup Cay(s), they provide no jobs really from Great Harbor, as a matter of fact they are trying to get the government to provide a ferry service from the ships to Great Harbor for the day.
Sandy Cay/Ocean Cay will be a new cruise port.
And then there is this.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/busines...022-story.html
And this..
https://caymannewsservice.com/2018/0...-this-weekend/

Honestly, does a cruise ship really bring dollars and jobs?
Short day dollars compared to week long dollars.
I have been going through this lately with what has happened to both the Bahamas and Caymans for the past 50 years.
Is it really better?
For the cruise ships, yes.
Everyone else? Not so much.
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I don't understand why there is such a bad perception to a Disney cruise ship stopping in Eleuthera. These cruise ships provide a service where the quests can appreciate what the Bahamas islands can provide in terms of beauty. The percentage of people that can afford a boat to travel to the islands is minimal.

I believe a cruise ship that stops on an island with hundreds if not thousands of people once or twice a week would provide much more financial impact than a handful of boaters. I'm probably wrong, but this is my belief.
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