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Old 09-04-2018, 11:14 AM
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Default FL Towing Overwidth Permit 10' Beam

Headed to the Keys and wanted to get legal for my 10' beam center console. Researched every thread I could find on THT and searched the web and it was frustrating to say the least. THT threads were outdated and links didnt work. So I'm putting up the fresh data so the next non-CDL, non-commercial person wanting to get legal can do it a bit easier.

This thread is for loads 8'-7" to 10"-0" Maximum. If you are 10'-1" or more do what you can to reduce. I have to remove my guide poles to go from 10'-4" down to 10'-0"... If you are over 10' then you go from a simple $20/year permit to a $300 permit with many more requirements!

Go to www.KellerPermits.com and print out the "Online Ordering Checklist" so you can get all the rig data you will need to obtain the permit.

1) You must use the FDOT PAS web site system (Permit Application System) to get the permit which means you gotta register. Hopefully you wont fall into the Certificate Validation nightmare that blocks you from entering. If you do call: 866-955-4357 for FDOT Tech Help.

2) Here is the PAS link where you need to start an FDOT account.

https://gis.dot.state.fl.us/PermitAp...ationSystem%2f

3) If you tow with the same truck and trailer each time click on that link. If you don't understand the terminology or know which item to select call: 850-410-5777 and they will walk you through the options.

4) If you chose the dedicated truck trailer combination then you dont have to fill out all the axel dimensions and details.

5) Be sure you know the weight of your truck and boat and make sure it is under the limit (22,000#) then you can click "Under legal weight limit" and you can avoid a page of axel weights and a bunch of other details you need a certified truck scale to find out. Just be damn sure you are truly under legal weight!

6) Be sure you are under 65' total length!

7) The dedicated truck/trailer permit is the only permit you can get via email and print off at home. ALL other permits must be processed and mailed to you (1-2 weeks).

Edit: FDOT will not email your permit. You must go back to the site and print it yourself. We couldn't figure out how to find it so we called the help line and they walked us thru it. Printed it out and we are set!

8) MAKE SURE all dimensions and weights you put on your permit application are equal to or slightly more than actual! The dimensions like "Rear Overhang" is all printed on your permit so when the DOT cop pulls you over he WILL tape all your dimension and if you are over by an INCH you will get a ticket! My boat/outboards overhang the trailer by 3'-10" but depending upon the ramp angle sometimes my boat sits back a few inches further. So I put down 5'-6" just in case. No ticket if you are within permit dimensions!

9) BEFORE you push the submit button be sure all data is correct. You can review the form by pushing Tab 5 at the top of the page. The form WILL allow you to proceed and pay even if the form is WRONG! I called 855-410-5777 and gave them my application number just to make sure it was all correct. Turns out I clicked the "Towing at Night" option and that would have made my $20 permit invalid! You CANT tow at night legally over 8'-6"! The lady told me to go back to Tab 1 and unclick that option. I did and it went through fine.

10) Once you provide your credit card info and submit, I was told FDOT will approve it and send me an email with the link within 15 minutes so I can print out the permit. I am now 3 hours later and no email. I will be calling FDOT to see what happened. If any issue I will update this thread...

It took me hours to figure all this out but only cost $20.00 for the permit. You can use a permit company but they charge $100 or more over. The two companies I spoke to said they dont issue the small 10' permit. If I wasnt going to the Keys I wouldnt bother with this permit cause its a PITA. But legally you are required to have it if you are over 8'-6"

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Old 09-05-2018, 07:08 AM
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I thought the email one was for one trip and the one sent in and mailed back was for a year. When I got back my mailed one they had increased the size and weight to max numbers.
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Thanks for taking the time to write this.
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Awesome job with this! I was a truck driver for 6 years and all I did was oversized permitted loads. You left some great info
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Thanks for taking the time to offer this info
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Hey Whit , I remember something about having to tow at night when actually in the Keys . I can't remember exactly what it was - just trying to save you some hassle on your trip . CajFlynn would know for sure if this raises any questions . Have a good Trip
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Originally Posted by ed d View Post
Hey Whit , I remember something about having to tow at night when actually in the Keys . I can't remember exactly what it was - just trying to save you some hassle on your trip . CajFlynn would know for sure if this raises any questions . Have a good Trip
The title of his thread is "10' beam." 10' is daylight only. Wider than that is nighttime only. The OP was spot on.
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Originally Posted by cajflynn View Post
The title of his thread is "10' beam." 10' is daylight only. Wider than that is nighttime only. The OP was spot on.
Your the man cajflynn , You are Cleared To Launch Whit Flight , Good Hunting !!
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Thanks guys. I just edited #7. FDOT won't email you your approved permit. You must go back to the site, find it and print it out. We called the help line to walk us through it since it's not clear to a novice like me!

Hope this thread helps folks spend more time fishing and reduces aggravation.
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Great write up and info...thanks for taking the time to do it.
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You will probably be the only one you see that has jumped through all the hoops.
The majority of tourists don't bother to get permits and nobody bothers them
Before you go through the excercise check Monroe County requirements for need, you may be suprised
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Thanks for this information!
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Originally Posted by keysdiver View Post
You will probably be the only one you see that has jumped through all the hoops.
The majority of tourists don't bother to get permits and nobody bothers them
Before you go through the excercise check Monroe County requirements for need, you may be suprised
I would encourage everyone pulling a boat to the Keys to check FDOT requirements and also search here on THT for threads of others experiences of pulling thru Key Largo and that particular cop that loves writing huge tickets! Nope, not everyone gets one but you can bet your ass I would be that guy!

Make an informed decision...
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The one thing I know is that if you get stopped they are going to work you over they will check everything lights brakes vehicle tie down straps and even ask for the breaking strain on the Tie downs tread carefully in the keys
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Mods please make this post a sticky.

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Thank you, sir !
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Thanks for this. I realize I need a permit as well. My boat has 8'6" beam.
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Originally Posted by JoseG View Post
Thanks for this. I realize I need a permit as well. My boat has 8'6" beam.
Jose, from 8'-6" or less no permit for width required. Permits for over width start at 8'-7" and go up in steps.

First step for width is 8'-7" to 10'-0". This is the first and simplest permit to obtain.

Second is 10'-1" to (?). That is an entirely different animal and beyond the scope of this thread. Seek professional assistance.

Im glad this thread has helped folks.
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My Glacier Bay 2670 Beam is right at 8'6". (Obviously the trailer width is more. ) Regardless I'm going to carry the manf owners manual with complete dimensions. That way - no issues. No need to permit based on the above. Which is nice.
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Originally Posted by jbdba01 View Post
My Glacier Bay 2670 Beam is right at 8'6". (Obviously the trailer width is more. ) Regardless I'm going to carry the manf owners manual with complete dimensions. That way - no issues. No need to permit based on the above. Which is nice.
Just so you know, a FL DOT cop only cares about "overall width" which is the widest part of the towed item. Boat, trailer, guide poles, etc. From a statutory perspective, if anything behind your tow vehicle is over 8'-6" you are illegal without a permit. It will be up to the cop if he wants to write you up.
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