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Old 05-15-2018, 12:10 PM
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Does anyone know what are the laws are concerning anchoring on a sand bar that goes under water at high tide.We were out over the week end and we were on the tip of a sand bar,when the tide went out the ranger from the island came to us and said we have to put our dog in the boat.Does the ranger have any jurisdiction over the sand bar that goes under water.We were well below the tide line.Thanks
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Never heard of such a thing, he might have just been concerned for the dog's safety?
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:03 PM
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Out of curiosity, how much land are we talking about? Where does the dog poop?
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:10 PM
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I'm sure they are fretting about your dog getting loose and harassing the birds, digging up turtle nests, or fouling the beach on the island. Around here they claim jurisdiction on any dry sand adjacent to a park beach, and therefore make you take your drink to waist deep water.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:17 PM
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Does anyone know what are the laws are concerning anchoring on a sand bar that goes under water at high tide.We were out over the week end and we were on the tip of a sand bar,when the tide went out the ranger from the island came to us and said we have to put our dog in the boat.Does the ranger have any jurisdiction over the sand bar that goes under water.We were well below the tide line.Thanks

That is interesting. Where were you? I go to Ft. George all the time and have never once seen a ranger out there besides at the Kingsley Plantation area. My thought would be that if the ranger can walk to you then he has authority, but if they have to boat to you then you should be safe. That would make it the difference between a beach and a sandbar.
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Where were you? Never heard of such a thing or seen any sort of "ranger" at any of the normal spots.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:37 AM
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We were on little talbot on the simpson creek side the sand bar runs up to the dry land but goes under water at high tide as far as the poop they stay on leash and waits til we get home,there toy poodles.It seems depending on what ranger you get things are different,A couple years ago we were told the alcohol had to be in the water but havent heard that again just the dog thing,last year a volunteer said dog was good tied to the boat as long as they werent loose Funny they worry about the dog on a leash at the boat but they drive suvs and atv to tell us that which i pointed out.It starts with a volunteer person that was there for about 3 hours before speaking to me driving her atv around the designated bird fence then she walks through the thing then comes to me.I always though if you were under the tide line you were technically in the water. At half or high tide this wouldnt be an issue we were in knee deep water most of the morning til it got low.Its about 2-3 acres guessing at dead low. Thanks
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We were on one of the little islands by Anclote off tarpon springs a couple weeks ago with our yorkie. He was playing in the water I purposely kept him in the water not on dry ground. I was approached by two females (sorry no pics) and told dog was not allowed on island. My son found a sign on the island that said same thing. I’m not sure if it was just that one or if all of them are like that .
i did see others with bigger dogs on the island I understand about harassing the other wildlife and maybe digging up a turtle nest but I keep mine on a leash at all times.
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Originally Posted by oceandansar View Post
We were on one of the little islands by Anclote off tarpon springs a couple weeks ago with our yorkie. He was playing in the water I purposely kept him in the water not on dry ground. I was approached by two females (sorry no pics) and told dog was not allowed on island. My son found a sign on the island that said same thing. I’m not sure if it was just that one or if all of them are like that .
i did see others with bigger dogs on the island I understand about harassing the other wildlife and maybe digging up a turtle nest but I keep mine on a leash at all times.
Yes, you're correct about Anclote Island itself. The sand bar to the north is OK for dogs.
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no dogs or drinking on talbot, not sure where to draw the line but have witnessed MANY tickets written for drinking on shore there...the sandbars in the middle seem to be fair game
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Originally Posted by andrewjaxFL View Post
no dogs or drinking on talbot, not sure where to draw the line but have witnessed MANY tickets written for drinking on shore there...the sandbars in the middle seem to be fair game
Hit the nail on the head.
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Ah, we usually anchor off on the islands in the middle. That beach is more trouble than it's worth when the tide is ripping. FWIW I think as long as you are below the high tide line you are fine. Of course they could write you a ticket anyway and make it a PITA.
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I think the rule is if your feet are in the water you're fine, but if you're on the sand you can get a ticket. They started that awhile back when Fort George was getting too rowdy. As long as you're ankle deep though I think you're okay, but dogs running in and out of the water is bad. Seems dumb, but in July on a Saturday afternoon it can start to make some sense for a public park.
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no dogs or drinking on talbot, not sure where to draw the line but have witnessed MANY tickets written for drinking on shore there...the sandbars in the middle seem to be fair game

Are you guys talking about what I call "Party Beach" on the west side of Hecksher drive circled in this picture?




When I don't have the little one with us, I always anchor up there and haven't once seen a park ranger or any officials on land. Sometimes it can get a little wild depending on how many over privileged college kids are there with a million dollars + in boats beached next to each other, but I digress. Maybe I need to keep a closer eye on the surroundings to make sure i don't end up with a ticket.
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Yeah, that's the area. It's where I normally go. I haven't ever seen the rangers out there either personally, but have heard of others getting tickets for being on the beach with a beer. I think that's been more around events like 4th of July, etc. I do see the police boats out there though circling, but never seen them pull anyone over, just keeping a check on people I suspect. It's a great spot except when someone pulls up and thinks that they need to show off their sound system, inevitably with some type of hard bass music.
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It's a great spot except when someone pulls up and thinks that they need to show off their sound system, inevitably with some type of hard bass music.
I feel like I'm becoming an old man for agreeing with you! haha. I have small kids, so if they want to play there on the sand we'll get there early and leave early. I personally prefer the sandbars in the middle for anytime after noon. In the dead of the summer that beach get sweltering hot in the afternoon since the berm along Heckscher blocks any type of sea breeze.
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