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Old 07-21-2014, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bearohs View Post
over kill on the tackle unless you are fishing some serious wrecks. Id downsize to much smaller, and get off the braid. 40lb line, 50lb leader should be fine.

What setup on a depthfinder are you using, what Hz on the frequency etc.
Been reading this forum all week and just found out I shouldnt leave my FF on auto so I am only now learning bout the settings today.\
Is there a standard I should start with for 100ft of water?
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Old 07-21-2014, 03:35 PM
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Then I need advice on what to look for to find my own numbers
http://www.thehulltruth.com/sportfis...numbers.html#b

http://www.thehulltruth.com/florida-...e-updated.html
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Old 07-21-2014, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fatfonzi View Post
Been reading this forum all week and just found out I shouldnt leave my FF on auto so I am only now learning bout the settings today.\
Is there a standard I should start with for 100ft of water?
I am not the guru here, but there is a ton of stuff you need to do to get it dialed in.. The frequency, plus the other adjustments make for to matter..

Id think at that depth, 66hz would be right..
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Old 07-21-2014, 03:45 PM
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First I think your leader is for sharks not Snapper. Try 30 lb. fluorocarbon with 1-2 0 hooks. And GET OFF THE BOTTOM. That's were the sharks are
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Old 07-21-2014, 03:45 PM
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Anybody wanna come with me out of port canaveral Saturday 7-26-14 for the last day of snapper season and help and teach me how to find a spot for snapper. I'll pay your share of gas, bait, ice and all the equipment for your help.Pluse ill throw in a case of beer (your choice) just to get me started on learning the ropes.

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Old 07-21-2014, 03:55 PM
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Off the bottom? I keep hearing only 2 or 3 turns off the bottom. How far off the bottom are you talking?
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Old 07-21-2014, 04:02 PM
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U guys need to go a little deeper. Im new to pc and I found them.
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Old 07-21-2014, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fatfonzi View Post
Sharkfighter, this helped a ton and is exactly the kind of info I am looking for. Any chance of getting same kind of pic not directly over the reef so I can compare. My bottom looked similar to that this weekend but all sharks. is it easy to mistake a sandy bottom for a reef or are they clearly visible and different on my FF. its a garmin 741xs by the way.

Go slow and watch the Bottom when you are not over the fish. but you need to be going slow idle speed. Are you fishing over a wreck or structure? or just "Natural Bottom" ?

If you are over structure, when you go slow you will see the change, If it is something like a wreck or reef the change will be dramatic

the bottom structure is probably NOT exactly where the grid numbers you got are. You probably need to drive around slowly and I mean slow, in small circles until you come across it. The bottom scan will hopefully go from NO fish to full of fish. And you are looking for fish on the bottom not anywhere else in the water column.
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Old 07-21-2014, 04:45 PM
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It all depends on the spot and gow fired up the fish are. Public numbers get beat up bad. My advise would be to get in 100-120ft and troll and watch your bottom machine. When you see something mark it. Then go back and fish it. I catch my big snapper (25lbs plus) on small spots unless the fish are spawning then you will get the big ones halfway up. Swiss cheese bottom is limestone hard bottom. Red grouper, gags, and ars will be there. But you have to know what you are looking at. If you were in St Augustine I would say go with me.
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Old 07-21-2014, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by thelegendfishing View Post
It all depends on the spot and gow fired up the fish are. Public numbers get beat up bad. My advise would be to get in 100-120ft and troll and watch your bottom machine. When you see something mark it. Then go back and fish it. I catch my big snapper (25lbs plus) on small spots unless the fish are spawning then you will get the big ones halfway up. Swiss cheese bottom is limestone hard bottom. Red grouper, gags, and ars will be there. But you have to know what you are looking at. If you were in St Augustine I would say go with me.
I would come up there and go with you for sure if you'd show me enough to be able to do it myself when I get back to canaveral
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Old 07-21-2014, 04:54 PM
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First you go to a local dive bar. Second you buy her many rounds of shots, Third you tell her she is wicked pretty!. Fourth, you got yourself a "RED SNAPPER".

Sorry, had to do it, it was gonna happen eventually.

I just wish we had red snapper to catch here on the east coast in Massachusetts, the stripers aren't even hitting good this year!!!

Good luck with the snapper catching!
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Old 07-21-2014, 05:17 PM
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Buy them a drink then ask them to dance....
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Old 07-21-2014, 06:18 PM
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diamond ring usually works well....
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:40 PM
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"Public numbers get beat up bad. My advise would be to get in 100-120ft and troll and watch your bottom machine. When you see something mark it. Then go back and fish it."

What he said,

When trying to find new spots, I like to troll until I mark several spots then pull in trolling rigs and go back and fire a couple of baits down on each spot until I hit something, then anchor. I like to mix up baits: dead sardines or threadfin, live pinfish, cut bonito or lizzardfish, and squid. 60 or 80 lb mono, 6 oz lead, with 3' piece of 80 lb floro leader. Snapper seam to like big rocks and ledges. Fish on bottom.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by sharkfighter View Post
Go slow and watch the Bottom when you are not over the fish. but you need to be going slow idle speed. Are you fishing over a wreck or structure? or just "Natural Bottom" ?

If you are over structure, when you go slow you will see the change, If it is something like a wreck or reef the change will be dramatic

the bottom structure is probably NOT exactly where the grid numbers you got are. You probably need to drive around slowly and I mean slow, in small circles until you come across it. The bottom scan will hopefully go from NO fish to full of fish. And you are looking for fish on the bottom not anywhere else in the water column.
This is great advice. When you arrive to your "spot" if it is flat without any kind structure/ledge/depression, then you are not on the spot. Motor around very slow in a clover leaf pattern around your number.

Your tackle is a little heavy but I think it'll work. If your bottom machine is able to read while you're motoring then you need to be looking at that on the way to your spot. If you see something that look likes a sudden depth change or an area that has a lot of color/fish symbols (Learn the arches get rid of the symbols) stop and drop down a frozen sardine. If it gets hits it'll chum up the area some and you can drop down live bait.

(if you do this you'll need to slow way down, circle back to see if it's worth the time, then you'll need to drift over the spot with the lines down, there's no need to anchor when prospecting, if the fish bite then anchor if not, delete the waypoint and continue on... If you don't know how to create a waypoint stay home until you do)

If you're going to do this on your own then you need to focus on learning your equipment long before you leave the dock. Get your manual grab an iced tea and put your fishfinder on the demo mode and learn what everything does. Once you learn your fishfinder you'll find plenty of spots on the way out to your "known spot".

I started just like you years ago and with the help of this forum and learning from others I've had great days on the water.

EDIT: Strips of bonita make great snapper bait!
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Agreed on the tackle. 100lb leader is way heavy for basic snapper/grouper fishing.
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Old 07-22-2014, 03:45 AM
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20lb+ I was at 125' of water and my sinker was all the way at the bottom 60# mono line hook size 6/0 Attachment 440937
Isnt that scorpion marina?
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Old 07-22-2014, 06:06 AM
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The first thing you need to do is downsize your gear significantly.

You might luck across a big grouper with leader that heavy but the odds are slim. And you'll probably catch mostly...sharks.

I normally run a 40# braid (or mono) main line and tie a swivel to the end of it. Above that swivel I'll put a 6-8oz egg sinker. I like to put a plastic bead between the sinker and the swivel in order to protect the knot.

Then I tie up an assortment of 20, 30, and 40# leaders of varying lengths connected to 3/0, 4/0, 5/0 hooks.

This allows me to swap out my leader/hook depending on the bite and the size of my baits.

Drop it down...crank it up off the bottom a bit...hold on. (Sometimes I'll drop it very slow and it will get hit further up the water column...but that generally occurs after we have caught a few fish and things have warmed up...)

This first pic is bottom that we found while prospecting at idle speed in 115' on the Gulf side. Notice how thick the red line is. This pic is how it looked as we rolled over it...no chum, no baits, nothing...before the first bait went down...



Bro-n-law fired the first line down and got railed by this fellow. He got him to the boat on 20# gear...proof sometimes its good to start light rather than heavy...



My best snapper came off a rock pile that lit up like the proverbial Christmas tree you mentioned in your original post. He was probably 10-15' off the bottom...supporting the theory that sometimes the bigger fish are on the top of the pile...



I got him in the boat on 30# tackle...was never in danger of breaking off. He gave me a good fight though...turned and burned drag three times before he rolled over and came up.

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Also...one more thing...I've noticed that sometimes a little current or tidal movement will REALLY help the bite offshore. We've struggled keeping our baits down with 6oz and absolutely killed it...but as soon as the current slacked off and our lines were straight up and down...nothing was eating.

So you may be on good spots...at the wrong time...
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