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Old 04-11-2014, 12:31 PM
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We're staying at Big Game tues night...i'll let ya know whats going on.
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:07 PM
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I have stayed at Big Game Club quite a few times over the last couple of years and have always been fine and felt safe at the docks and even roaming around town. However, we are usually back at the boat before dark and aren't silly drunk the whole time either.

The last trip the bigger drama occurred with a falling down drunk gal screaming obscenities on the docks at West End so go figure...
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:44 PM
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I've walked home from Bimini Bay to seacrest at 11PM alone after my golfcart batteries died. Nobody was ever rude or aggressive. In fact, I got offered to play some dominos. Bimini is a very safe place. Its never the Bimini born people starting trouble. Its all the riff raff thats been brought in.
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:55 PM
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Poor BOOZE, always gets the blame. Nobody gets hammered more than our crew, yet we've never got the urge to argue or fight anyone. I believe there are bigger a-holes and drunks, and drunk a-holes boating stateside than in Bimini. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, have stayed anywhere and everywhere on both islands and never had a bad encounter with anyone I've met. To the contrary, everyone I've met has been pleasant and a pleasure to meet. But then again one can never be too sure, they may have upon meeting me said......what an a-hole.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:48 PM
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We're staying at Big Game tues night...i'll let ya know whats going on.
Stay out of other peoples boats
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Old 04-11-2014, 04:16 PM
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Stay out of other peoples boats
Lol...will do!
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:13 PM
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Four guys vs. one drunk guy and he's left for dead without calling for help? Whoever stuck the knife in him and pulled it out with blood all over it must have thought the drunk guy might die. Or worst yet left the knife in him and watched him stager away has some issues.
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Old 04-12-2014, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by nexxxt214 View Post
Everyone here is wrong.

I know the mate who accidentally stabbed the guy. Guy isn't stabbing anyone for "talking shit".... he's a good kid....

The guy who died got on the boat 2-3 times and was getting physical with the crew....

The mate gabbed the knife as the gentleman who was killed reached for it several times, and began walking to get security. He was tackled and the filet knife went into him. He got up and walked away like the wind was knocked out of him.....

I feel bad for the crew of the boat and feel bad for the family of the man.. but he was acting like a drunk asshole and died because he got physical with the mate versus anyone from the crew being agressive.

The crew had kicked him off the boat several times and he kept boarding....
I got tired of the news about three days after this happened because I knew the truth would eventually come out and everything in the meantime was hearsay. Thanks for the update.

Getting drunk and having good time on an island is one thing, but starting trouble and boarding a vessel against the wishes of the crew is something very different. I hate that the negative press has been brought to Bimini but this sounds self-inflicted. It is too bad it wasn't just a good old fashioned ass kicking. I hope justice is served and everyone involved gets what they do deserve (time or freedom) according to what really happened.
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Old 04-12-2014, 05:14 AM
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Lol that story has some holes....tackled and tripped and fell on a knife??? Suuuure.....

I'm going to agree with my buddy corona here...our crew drinks as well, we've never been put in that situation...and 4 guys against one drunk is not a fight...

There are three stories here...only one is the truth, and it hasnt been posted yet
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Old 04-12-2014, 04:14 PM
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Ok the 2 cents reply from a guy who's probably logged more hours on that island over more years than most on this site combined. I'll preface by saying how bad I feel for both the victim and crew's family. This is a no win situation, all sides are the victim. I will not comment on the tackle or no tackle angle. I will say that the story I got pretty well echoes the rest of the accounts.
I hear all that chest pounding BS "Oh I would have handled it different". Unless you are thrust into that situation for real you have no clue how you will react. I'm not sure where the one comment, "I don't know many who would shoot" came from. If this was a repeat offender boarding another's boat as seems to be the case, I don't know many that wouldn't. You don't know who's carrying what especially when he's that whacked and irrational. Your scuppers might be in the bullseye or as suggested he could arm himself with whatever is in reach. I can't say with certainty exactly what i would do but a Remington shampoo is not out of the question.
Now lets talk Bimini... I hear this talk its not what it used to be. Nothing is. Any worse? I'd say worse than late 70's yes... I would however say better than late 80's to late 90's. It got rough enough that I shortened my usual stays from 2 months to a month or even three weeks. Get in and get out routine. I felt comfortable at Compleat angler where the booze did flow. I woke up in bushes on stone walls and on the dock on more than one occasion and didn't feel unsafe. If you got a block off that beaten path though I was always doubly on my guard.
Early 2000s I saw an effort by natives to get their island back, lose that element and make it user friendsly again. My time on island went back up by a lot.
No place is exempt from bad guys and I have seen as many bad on island as "Imported". Through the years there have been murders on the main road, up in Bailey town, even at Blue Water. In no way do I blame the locations. Above I say better now and I stand by that.
Does that mean there is no crime now? Not at all. My boats owner was rolled for his wallet a couple years ago. Others have as well. Natives fight and occasionally they stab one another. Bottom line of those crimes though, in most every case common sense was absent. You don't hear much of it. They have a full time person on island to keep a lid on as much of that info as possible. While I bring up that it does go on today it was actually far more prevalent back when. We had no social media to spread the word like wildfire but trust me its been there a very long time and again usually fed by lack of common sense.
A lot of you know that til recently I was employed by Big Game. Though I'm no longer there, I would not hesitate for a second to send a friend with kids there. It is safe as can be. This is a freak thing. Bimini in general is safe as can be. This was a tragic series of events. Nothing more or less...
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Old 04-12-2014, 05:17 PM
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Well said.
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Old 04-12-2014, 05:18 PM
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Sorry,, I dont know many people who would pull guns on an unarmed man. They sure had a right to defend themselves from attack, however it could have all ended a little better for everyone involved.
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I hate this for all involved but am glad it is due to drunken foolishness and not something more sinister.
I really want my daughter to see Bimini before it turns into west Miami but was apprehensive about making plans after reading a few of the recent Bimini threads.
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Lol that story has some holes....tackled and tripped and fell on a knife??? Suuuure.....

I'm going to agree with my buddy corona here...our crew drinks as well, we've never been put in that situation...and 4 guys against one drunk is not a fight...

There are three stories here...only one is the truth, and it hasnt been posted yet
Dude, you have issues.

If you ever met this kid, you would understand he is not stabbing anyone....

What is so unbelievable about tackling someone with a knife and falling on it?

Oh, and if the Bahamians thought this was murder, the people would not be out on bail.
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Old 04-14-2014, 02:40 PM
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As a long time and frequent visitor to Bimini I can agree with C gulls post. We have stayed at Big Game since the early 90's and then Sands when BBGC was closed in 08-09.

While my ''late night'' activities have calmed in the 20+ years we have been visiting Bimini, I do not feel any less safe than in the past. Going anywhere and drinking till you fall down has the high potential for a bad ending.

There is no need to be off the resort property after 1 or 2am. The bars are closed up, only the night owls are up and there is no need to interact with them to enjoy this bit of paradise.

Go there, keep your wits about you, enjoy the local flavor but don't assume you are in Kansas Dorothy and you will be fine. Drugs, drinking and petty theft are a part of any island or tourist area. I have been to many of the islands in the Caribbean as well as in Florida, Hawaii, Tahiti and in New England/Maine. They all have one common thread, people that are on vacation like to party and the locals are right there with them!
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:19 AM
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Any updates on this?
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Any updates on this?

https://www.bahamaslocal.com/newsite...ing_death.html
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:10 AM
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Any updates on this?
Yes... The guy that got stabbed is still dead.
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueRudy View Post
Yes... The guy that got stabbed is still dead.
Did he try to steal a wave runner?
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:52 PM
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if you have a knife dont tackle someone......doesnt make any sense.....
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Apparently the Valles kid has not learned much.... How does this story make him look when this comes up at his trial? Airsoft rifle trial raises questions about Bimini stabbing death Miami Herald

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Old 05-22-2018, 09:04 AM
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Apparently the Valles kid has not learned much.... How does this story make him look when this comes up at his trial? Airsoft rifle trial raises questions about Bimini stabbing death Miami Herald
I doubt this will ever go to trial in the Bahamas. They got their $35,000 in bail money and won't have to spend money on the court case.
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