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Old 07-27-2016, 01:25 PM
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Or a heavy draw on the same circuit, at the same time the machine is running.
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This is on my father in laws boat. One bank on his onboard charger has not been charging correctly.
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Subscribed. This thread is great. Especially like the explanation that you're looking at distance not depth. Makes the tails more understandable. Thanks for the great info
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Originally Posted by SouthShoreSlayer View Post
This is on my father in laws boat. One bank on his onboard charger has not been charging correctly.
Switch the battery leads... If the incorrect charging "transfers" to the other battery your charger is the problem... If it doesn't, your problem is elsewhere...
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Switch the battery leads... If the incorrect charging "transfers" to the other battery your charger is the problem... If it doesn't, your problem is elsewhere...

We did. The light on that bank on the charger stays amber. It did the same when we changed leads.
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Originally Posted by SouthShoreSlayer View Post
We did. The light on that bank on the charger stays amber. It did the same when we changed leads.
I'm not sure what an amber light means on your charger...
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How would these be interpreted? I had some buddies dive the first pic, so I already know whats there.


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Originally Posted by mr.redfish79 View Post
How would these be interpreted?
A man in a funny straw hat staring at FF and seeing nice fish?
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Great info....Amazing thread
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Originally Posted by mr.redfish79 View Post
How would these be interpreted? I had some buddies dive the first pic, so I already know whats there.

Mr. Redfish,

We don't know whether you're anchored or drifting, or your scroll speed. But even without that info, in the first pic you are obviously over some tall structure, likely a wreck, with large fish such as AJs, holding mid-depth.

In the second picture, I'll go out on a limb and say that there are two people actively fishing from the rear of the boat with large live baits on 6 ft leaders under a sinker. Just a guess, but consistent with the picture. The guys are raising a lowering their baits, trying to find the fish which are a little above the baits.
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Originally Posted by Srf_Cast View Post
A man in a funny straw hat staring at FF and seeing nice fish?
Haha! I resemble that remark.


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Mr. Redfish,

We don't know whether you're anchored or drifting, or your scroll speed. But even without that info, in the first pic you are obviously over some tall structure, likely a wreck, with large fish such as AJs, holding mid-depth.

In the second picture, I'll go out on a limb and say that there are two people actively fishing from the rear of the boat with large live baits on 6 ft leaders under a sinker. Just a guess, but consistent with the picture. The guys are raising a lowering their baits, trying to find the fish which are a little above the baits.
I was "anchored" via spot lock with a trolling motor. It keeps you fairly still but it is constantly working to to hold you there. I don't know my scroll speed off the top of my head.

In the first pic there is no wreck. It's scattered sand, and rock bottom with very small and subtle ledges. We were dropping chumballs, and pulled a big school of mangroves off the bottom. We were using sardine chunks on 1/4oz jigheads and hooking fish within the top 1/3rd of the water column.



The second picture is a similar scenario, but not 100% sure. I haven't put my diver friends down at this particular location yet. I have a 5' of relief @30' to my East. What you're seeing is a school of muttons. It was a last hoorah and I dumped the motherload of chum over the side....4lbs of fresh dead sardines, my remaining chumball mixture, a couple lbs of squid, you get the point. We had a few baits left in the well and I told the guys we'll give it 20 more minute. On of the guys start to reel up and gets hammered. For the next 15 baits it was insane. As you were dropping the would get crushed right around the 50' mark.

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Subscribed. Great thread.
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Can you pick hard bottom up at speed with a thru hull transducer?
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Originally Posted by pcreyn319 View Post
Can you pick hard bottom up at speed with a thru hull transducer?
I can with my furuno and b260, at 40 mph I can see hard bottom and fish spikes out to 400'
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Originally Posted by tainted View Post
I do with a B60. No problem up to about 30kts. Above that, my hull pulls in too much air and the return suffers. It will depend on your hull and where you install it.
Same here on a furuno & B60. Any ducer that is in clean water will see the bottom regardless of speed. The key is ducer placement to get clean water regardless of conditions.
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Love this thread!
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First pick is not zoomed and running both L&H FQ obviously the H side shows a little pile of something "fish" on the bottom...no Tails = adjust the gain

and the low FQ side again not zoomed in to show clear bottom tails. With both sides being not zoomed nor showing any Tails or hard to see Tails on the LF side my guess would be flat bottom "taint bottom" sand, cheese scattered looking..sea fans etc.
Now that I read your response it is pretty much exactly what I would say. The little ledge would pop much much better if you either ran LF and ranged properly as well as shifted to give you a tighter look at the bottom.
Also with that machine you can run the one side Auto ranged but zoom the other side in "same FQ" so you can see the bottom more clearly.
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You can really see the difference with my furuno navnet with the DFF1 and a 1kw T/H ducer set on LF with bottom zoom. My machine will zoom into 2ft increments.
You can clearly see the sand vs the hard bottom on the non zoomed side...I have my Tails set up white so when I move over any type of hard bottom whether it be the "taint bottom " rolls to hard bottom, ledges and the all important "pot holes"
There is a shot of the back side of a pot hole in 101 or 102ft. Very very little relief and unless you are zoomed in chances are he would drive right over it because it's only 2-3 foot of a depth change "roll up" from pot hole.
Those nice little gems of the GOM in various depths can hold just about everything from reds, gags, ars, jacks, gogos, lanes...carbos..
Some of those nice piggy carbos are taken in 150-180ft (and beyond obviously like 200-450ft)
Finding those very small pockets of hard bottom simple pot hole (not a typical roll off that runs 100+ yards and has 3-10ft rolls...
They are a pain in the ass to anchor on most of the time due to how small they are...some are larger than others couple boat lengths some a single boat length 30-50ft from end to end.
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Yeah what chirp was designed to do deep water stuff and isolate fish targets.
Over all in the GOM garmin chirp isn't worth a shit due to the depths we fish 35-100ft.. depending on what part of the west coast of fla you leave outta it's a hike to kit 160ft.. 65-70 miles.
Juice isn't worth the squeeze. I have been on many boats with chirp garmin specifically and I wasn't impressed whatsoever for what we do. Yes it has a place but not over here fishing shallow.


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Pretty informative thread. Always down to learn something new but I think the Garmin does alright but thats just me.

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The shots that didn't load of the pot hole white Tails showing the hard stuff next to the sand.
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