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heading to keys (KCB) first of October question as i get supplies ready.

Anyone have some billy bait mini turbo's for sale?

Also are you guys buying them rigged or unrigged and then rigging them yourself?

Mono 100# crimped with assuming a size 8 hook?
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80 to 100 lb mono tied and Mustad #8 Hook will position the hook right at the back of the skirt.

Don't buy the rigged ones. Waste of money.

I always pull a black and red in the shotgun way back. Has accounted for everything that swims down there including a Blue Marlin.
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Years ago I was in a tackle shop and another customer turned me onto his "favorite lure" and how to rig it. He was so excited about these things that I bought a couple, even though they were not much different than the old No Alibi lures that I've pulled since I was a kid back in the '60's. Turned out he was certainly right and I rarely ever troll without one in the spread, sometimes behind a bird and sometimes bare. Very productive. The further back, the better.

Anyway, his trick for rigging was to use a short piece of poly tubing from Home Depot to provide protection for the 100# mono from being clipped off by toothy critters and to set the hook back just a tad further. Has held up for me to tons of Barracudas, Kings and one really nice Wahoo (a prize in these parts) on top of a bunch of Blackfin. I rig mine with a 7/0 Mustad 3407DT and 1 3/4" of (pretty sure of size but I can't seem to lay my hands on the right size roll at the moment) 1/4" tubing. Adding a pic of similar, but wrong size stuff. When correct, the tubing will be a tight fit over the eye of the hook and cover over both of the double crimps. Also be sure to wrap a flemmish loop with the mono before crimping.

Can't think of a good reason not to pass it on.




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Originally Posted by Lemonbayboating View Post
heading to keys (KCB) first of October question as i get supplies ready.

Anyone have some billy bait mini turbo's for sale?

Also are you guys buying them rigged or unrigged and then rigging them yourself?

Mono 100# crimped with assuming a size 8 hook?

I love Billy Baits, and have caught everything from pesky almaco jacks and barracuda to blackfin tuna, hundreds of dolphin including a 30 pounder, sailfish, and a 90 lb white marlin.

They're a little expensive and sometimes hard to find, so I tried Tormenter lures that I bough at a boat show. They're much less expensive, work just as well and the skirts actually hold up a little longer. They also usually come pre-rigged with a little heavier line and hook than the pre-rigged Billy Baits.


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I also like to set the hook back a little farther, I normally use beads but the the tubing sounds like a good trick. I run at least one anytime I troll, even caught a few grouper on them in the Bahamas!!
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Thanks for all the good information and insights
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I like the plastic tube idea....think I'll give it a try. I love the blue and silver ones but might try some of the other colors.
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Originally Posted by bw17 View Post
They're a little expensive and sometimes hard to find, so I tried Tormenter lures that I bough at a boat show. They're much less expensive, work just as well and the skirts actually hold up a little longer. They also usually come pre-rigged with a little heavier line and hook than the pre-rigged Billy Baits.
The price difference comes from what AFW is claiming is still a USA made product (hope it's really true) vs NOT

Anyway, here's Another thread discussing Billy Baits, but if you really like the Tormenter knockoff then I think this is their equivalent
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https://catchalltackle.com/flashm-tease-5-mylar-bait/
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Or go straight to the source:

https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...4a103fc6VEbY09
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A little different, here.

I run a 15-20 foot high quality, new Fluoro leader of 30-40 lb test and tuck the (#7 double strength) hook in a little tighter with spacing beads. No swivels, just a tiny Albright knot. It is a very delicate presentation and I do lose some (only the best, right?) that get cut, but I feel the fish here have seen it all and with good eyesight, the setup has to be just right. Got a nice marlin "right out front" a couple months ago.

That said, I have also learned that a good daisy chain, even if rigged less delicately can catch more fish.

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Red/black
Blue silver.

I rig my own using beads to set hook to very back of feathers.

If on a budget Bass pro has there own version that is way cheaper, (check all crimps had several that the crimp was never squeezed.)

Red/black seems to do best on the tuna.
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Thanks for all the advice i finished picking up some lures today and had some tubing at work so i rigged up couple billy baits and organized what i plan to take. I think with what i have i should be able to catch some fish along with all my other reef tackle and plugs, jigs cranks spoons etc.








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OP doesn’t fool around.
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I'm pumped up 3 weeks till we head to the keys and from here and friends I'm taking advice and getting ready lol. I want to put some fish in the box.

The tubing trick is sweet as well and quick and easy thanks!!!
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Originally Posted by Eye8atoad View Post
OP doesn’t fool around.
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OP, your lure box looks really ready!
Stick with it when you are out there and keep your ear to the radio.
700' has been the most active depth, but some days it's 1200, sometimes 300.
That black and red Billie is my #1.
Lil' stubbys in white and blue or oyster color my #2
Must be mylar.
Good luck, be safe and have a blast.
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Thanks Beau Sol appreciate it plan to keep it simple and use what everyone i know has told me and i picked up two more boat rods (spinners) for when the schoolies get boat side so i have them ready and i have my chum buckets to prep for that time as well.
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Next item up for discussion what is a good lobster netting kit to order off of Amazon? And Snorkel mask kit?

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