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Old 06-30-2020, 04:53 PM
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I heard it is going to be a requirement to have a descending device while fishing off the East Coast of Florida. I can not find any such statement
Does anyone know if this is true? I bought the SeaQualizer this weekend from a local tackle shop.

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Old 06-30-2020, 08:43 PM
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I found an article in TC Palm saying required in federal waters starting 7-15-20. You have to have one onboard if you are bottom fishing. Do a Google search for More info.
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Old 07-02-2020, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 95wellcraft View Post
Thank you. So, as long as I am fishing for Black Sea Bass, I don't need one. 😁. JK I bought one. Seems easier than trying to vent. Anyone who has one, how much weight is typical?
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I use 1# on mine. I have the "Seaquilizer" and it works great - set it to release depth, clamp on the fish's lower jaw and slowly lower back down. Well worth the time to not see Red Snapper or Grouper struggling on the surface unable to return to the reef.
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I've been using a Seaqualizer for about six years now. Works great, just spray it down with some Corrosion X once in a while to keep it working well. When starting out we used a 1# weight which was not near enough when we tried to release an estimated 80# goliath. Since then we have been using 3#. A 2# weight might work, but 1# is not enough in my opinion when you end up with a bigger fish.
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I picked one up as well, used 1st time a couple was ago, really cool device. Far better than venting. The only problem is the boca grip sucks, over half the fish I tried to use it on fell off the damn thing before they even hit the water. The boca didn’t open, it just doesn’t close tight enough on smaller fish like short red grouper and they slide right off. I’m extra careful now letting them down into the water but it’s not easy bending over the side of the boat holding the fish, and the boca, and the weight and line. It’s pretty much a 2 man job.


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They work great until the first king fish or shark takes your fish and the $50 seaquilizer right along with it. Gets expensive real quick.

I rig a large J hook with the barb filed completely away. The J hook gets rigged upside down and the mainline gets tied to an 12-18 inch piece of wire which gets tied to the bend of the upside down release hook. The eye of the upside down J hook gets rigged down and is attached to a short length of wire to a weight.

You always hook the fish in the lower jaw, drop him down and then give one good jerk and he's gone. Reel it back up.

WAY cheaper to lose this rig to a shark than a seaquilizer. Plus if I still get sharked returning a fish to the bottom, I can make a new rig with what I have onboard. No one is going to carry a supply of those descending devices onboard. They are too expensive.
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Originally Posted by CJFL View Post
They work great until the first king fish or shark takes your fish and the $50 seaquilizer right along with it. Gets expensive real quick.

I rig a large J hook with the barb filed completely away. The J hook gets rigged upside down and the mainline gets tied to an 12-18 inch piece of wire which gets tied to the bend of the upside down release hook. The eye of the upside down J hook gets rigged down and is attached to a short length of wire to a weight.

You always hook the fish in the lower jaw, drop him down and then give one good jerk and he's gone. Reel it back up.

WAY cheaper to lose this rig to a shark than a seaquilizer. Plus if I still get sharked returning a fish to the bottom, I can make a new rig with what I have onboard. No one is going to carry a supply of those descending devices onboard. They are too expensive.
Will this rig pass the smell test with FWC?
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Here's mine.








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Originally Posted by signmansez View Post
Will this rig pass the smell test with FWC?
Just bought one on Amazon for 30 bucks to show FWC.Home made ones for actual use.I dunno.
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Originally Posted by signmansez View Post
Will this rig pass the smell test with FWC?
I don't see why not.
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Originally Posted by 95wellcraft View Post
Here's mine.








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That looks very similar to what I am using.

I am sure the FWC would be fine with it.
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Originally Posted by signmansez View Post
Will this rig pass the smell test with FWC?
Probably. Some commercially available devices use a similar concept. Fish is pulled down, but can swim off once descent stops.

In my area, they seem to be hard to come by. Checked several stores the other day, and none had them. Not required in the Gulf yet, so it’s understandable. However, I’m heading to the Keys shortly, so I needed one. Found some plans, and made one from a Fish Grip. One handle is attached to the weight. Other handle to the line. Bungee cord keeps hold of the fish until you release. Total cost was under $20, and it took about 5 minutes to make.
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Does the fish actually survive or is just a way to bury them in deep water so nobody finds the body. I always assumed the decompression was a fatal wound.
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Originally Posted by 95wellcraft View Post
Here's mine.








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Good idea, I made one similar but...... I used a slightly larger hook. and added a 0-ring around the hook that keeps he swivel from being able to slide off. Now that I think about it, maybe I will put o-ring on other side so there is no chance the swivel can slide toward the hook eye.



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Put a short piece of tubing over the eye of the swivel, then shove the hook thru the tubing, it won't move around hardly any.
Old trick for adding stinger hooks to jigs etc.


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Originally Posted by gfretwell View Post
Does the fish actually survive or is just a way to bury them in deep water so nobody finds the body. I always assumed the decompression was a fatal wound.
Sometimes, it might be fatal, but not always. Divers sometimes get similar illnesses as a result of ascending too quickly. The remedy is usually recompression followed by a gradual "ascent" to surface pressure. Since the fish doesn't need to return to the surface, recompression is usually all that's required.

I looked at several tackle stores, but could not find any descending devices. They aren't required in the Gulf (yet). So, I had to make my own. Cost was under $20. I followed the plans here https://myodfw.com/articles/make-you...cending-device
There are also some videos showing some fish clearly exhibiting barotrauma being released with this device.

I opted not to use rubber bands as they indicate in the instructions. Mainly because I had a bunch of bungee cord which would probably hold up better. Also when testing, I noticed that the release releases the rubber bands as well. With the bungee tied, I left some cord to thread through a hole on the fish grip and secured with a knot, so the bungee should come back up with the device.

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