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Old 05-01-2020, 07:41 PM
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https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/upl...29%20FINAL.pdf

Found this very interesting.

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05-03-2020, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jillybird View Post
Scott Gunn is absolutely correct. The rest of you, respectfully, don't know WTF you're talking about. The whole point of the shutdown was to stop the spread as much as possible. Allowing the Spring Breakers partying on the beaches did a nice job of spreading the disease into the heartland of our great country, infecting their parents, and killing their grandparents. South Florida has been hit pretty hard, and thank God things haven't gotten out of hand -- because of the shutdown. But you saw how it was with all of the complete morons on the sandbar at the start of this thing. And look at the mob scene at Black Point this morning. We've got to be very careful with how we reopen. The problem -- and it's a huge one -- is that we don't have the testing capacity still and after that, we don't have the ability to do sufficient contact tracing. So, Dr. Fauci and his fellow experts are all predicting another big blow up in the Fall/Winter because we're going to open up too early all over without adequate protections in place. I've seen the utter death and destruction this disease is causing in New York. My neighbors are dying. And they're not dying easily. It's awful. You've been lucky relatively in Florida. The sun and warmth do seem to slow the spread somewhat and affect the virulence of the virus. Up here, it's been a freaking nightmare. And no one is banging on doors to open up quickly because we're all afraid. What good are all your rights and your material things when you're dead or your parents or grandparents are dead? Listen to the scientists, not the imbecile politicians.
You should stay home. Everyone else who can think for themselves are just fine outside.

I think all those w your way of thinking (fear) should lock themselves in their house and continue to watch CNN till 2021. You know, just to be safe.
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My god - not the facts!! Remember we are still suppose to be overwhelming ALL of the health care facilities. Especially all the road blocks south of us. Thanks for posting- I saw the briefing the other day. Lets see if anyone reads it before commenting...

Of course if I am retired, living in Big Pine, catching flag yellowtail, I might have a little different outlook right now...

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Old 05-02-2020, 02:12 AM
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Some Scientist say (aka, follow the money or my opinion)...but wait, arenít we supposed to listen to the scientist or risk being branded a right wing nut job
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I havenít noticed any refrigerated trucks full of dead bodies on I-95 yet.

Whenís that peak all the experts were so scared of?
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Op should be banned. He is presenting actual data which goes against the storyline we have been feed. Clearly itís in Floridaís best interest to shelter in place and stop any and all economic activity to save the 40 out of 21,340,000 people who will die of Covid this month which has nothing to do with them being a life long smoker or 150# overweight.
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The media has their work cut out to spin this into doom and gloom, my guess it’ll be completely ignored.
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Awesome!! I have been watching the data daily and was hoping we were past the worst. I was having a conversation with a local ER doctor. He said normal patient volume is down 70%, they are sending people home. We need to get back open, but be ready for the worst.
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I think it's pretty misleading to take the absolute worst case projections of what might have happened had we done nothing and then compare it to what happened after we took drastic measures to prevent those bad things from happening. Of course those predictions didn't come true, that was the whole point.

I'd rather think about it as "good job, Florida. Way to come together and solve the problem."

But the rest of the document and plan is really good.
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Originally Posted by LagoonAkin View Post
Some Scientist say (aka, follow the money or my opinion)...but wait, arenít we supposed to listen to the scientist or risk being branded a right wing nut job
No, you go ahead and listen to your working class politicians and their media, and ignore those damn scientists with their fancy mansions and yachts who are always manipulating society for their power and money grab, lol.
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Originally Posted by Ricci View Post
Awesome!! I have been watching the data daily and was hoping we were past the worst. I was having a conversation with a local ER doctor. He said normal patient volume is down 70%, they are sending people home. We need to get back open, but be ready for the worst.
My wife is a Per Diem nurse..... Not in the ER or ICU( which at her work hasnít been overwhelmed). She hasnít worked in 2 months. She gets cancelled every shift due to no patients. Many of her friends are in the same situation.
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My wife is a Per Diem nurse..... Not in the ER or ICU( which at her work hasnít been overwhelmed). She hasnít worked in 2 months. She gets cancelled every shift due to no patients. Many of her friends are in the same situation.
I'm glad elective procedures are in the first phase of reopening.
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LETS ALL SAY IT TOGETHER OPEN THE COUNTRY, hopefully my comments arent edited by big brother totally changing my sentiments, again
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This is raw CDC data. Since they rely on states reports it will be a bit skewed but the impacts and trends are pretty clear. I can see the PI lawyers bow " If you or a family member were harmed by the overhyped sensationalism by xxx news channel, call us "

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Originally Posted by scott_gunn View Post
I think it's pretty misleading to take the absolute worst case projections of what might have happened had we done nothing and then compare it to what happened after we took drastic measures to prevent those bad things from happening. Of course those predictions didn't come true, that was the whole point.

I'd rather think about it as "good job, Florida. Way to come together and solve the problem."

But the rest of the document and plan is really good.

Whats misleading is the way the media has portrayed this whole thing. Good on the state for calling them out.
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Forgive me but I've been saying this was B_llshit since day one.
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Originally Posted by scott_gunn View Post
I think it's pretty misleading to take the absolute worst case projections of what might have happened had we done nothing and then compare it to what happened after we took drastic measures to prevent those bad things from happening. Of course those predictions didn't come true, that was the whole point.

I'd rather think about it as "good job, Florida. Way to come together and solve the problem."

But the rest of the document and plan is really good.
exactly. Itís crazy to me people have no room for middle ground. This is either smallpox or just a cold. We shut the whole country down, made everyone act like germs were everywhere, and somehow the fact numbers were only pretty bad is evidence we never should have done that stuff?

Iím glad curves are declining now, and favor reasonable openings. But saying this was all a scam is ignorant plain and simple. Will good data on the back end show what could have been a better solution? Sure. But thereís no way to know exactly how a virus works until after its been active a long time. You have to make choices before you can know the best solutions.
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I have been saying since Day One, the numbers don't add up to the (over) reaction. Even now, with a little over 1 million confirmed cases, that is only 1/3 of 1% of the population. Is it nasty? yes. Do people die from it? yes. Does someone in the middle of Kansas on his combine harvester have the same risk of catching it as someone who rides a crowded subway everyday in the one of the most densely populated cities in world? Hell No. Then why the **** would you shut down the entire country?

Do I believe this escaped from a virology lab in China, yes. Is that the reason for the over reaction? Possibly. Do I think China needs to pay a HEAVY price for this? Hell yes.
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Originally Posted by scott_gunn View Post

I'd rather think about it as "good job, Florida. Way to come together and solve the problem."
But that would deny those that did nothing but piss & moan about having to do their part for their fellowman..........the opportunity to now beat their chest and gloat about how smart they think they have been.
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Too bad everybody’s making $900 bucks a week on unemployment so employees are in no hurry to go back to work. Oh, and Florida wants to keep the tourism industry shut down for another month or two, just because...
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Originally Posted by scott_gunn View Post
I think it's pretty misleading to take the absolute worst case projections of what might have happened had we done nothing and then compare it to what happened after we took drastic measures to prevent those bad things from happening. Of course those predictions didn't come true, that was the whole point.

I'd rather think about it as "good job, Florida. Way to come together and solve the problem."

But the rest of the document and plan is really good.
Then look at the other graph on the same chart - the one with 3 months of social distancing. That prediction was also wildly incorrect.

The truth is that, in certain places, with people with certain other complications, this virus is fairly devastating but, to the general populous - it is not.

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