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Old 02-02-2020, 09:30 AM
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Hi, concerning only medical/legal pot. How is this treated with say Local FWC, local LE?, I assume once you reach federal water all bets are off with coasties.

Cruising in local FL waters and backwaters good to go?
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Originally Posted by CarverChris View Post
Hi, concerning only medical/legal pot. How is this treated with say Local FWC, local LE?, I assume once you reach federal water all bets are off with coasties.

Cruising in local FL waters and backwaters good to go?
I get boarded off shore all the time. I've had drug dogs on the boat off shore and at my house.
Do what works for you but I wouldn't want to get snagged in US waters and have to explain where I've been. There's also the added fun of them ripping your boat apart to make sure that you don't have more than is allowed by law.

It's a pain in the ass with having kids on the boat as I have to have that "I don't care what you do but you can't have drugs on the boat" lecture.
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Old 02-02-2020, 10:02 AM
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FWC and the LEO's on the water all enforce the same statutes and laws as everyone else. You will be fine in state waters as long as you have your card with you and all your affairs in order, not sure about federal waters but a small amount of marijuana isn't going to get you in huge trouble in federal court.
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Even though it's state legal it's still illegal by the Feds. In local state waters I'd guess you'd be ok if boarded by a state level or lower police. I wouldn't want to be in caught in federal waters by a government run agency. They would probably give you a hard time. All of this is just my thoughts and I have no legal experience what so ever...lol.
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If I would carry it offshore. It wouldn’t be more than I could eat in one sitting. The captain wouldn’t be partaking in any event.
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Originally Posted by Finatic Jason View Post
Even though it's state legal it's still illegal by the Feds. In local state waters I'd guess you'd be ok if boarded by a state level or lower police. I wouldn't want to be in caught in federal waters by a government run agency. They would probably give you a hard time. All of this is just my thoughts and I have no legal experience what so ever...lol.
In my experience, the USCG can stop you wherever they want to and do whatever they want to. I think you're opening yourself up to getting your boat tossed and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Originally Posted by Selser View Post
FWC and the LEO's on the water all enforce the same statutes and laws as everyone else. You will be fine in state waters as long as you have your card with you and all your affairs in order, not sure about federal waters but a small amount of marijuana isn't going to get you in huge trouble in federal court.
Have you heard of the Coast Guard's "Zero Tolerance" program? Look into it if you think you are OK with a small amount. They will take your boat in a heartbeat.... for starters.

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Originally Posted by LattitudeAdjustment View Post
Have you heard of the Coast Guard's "Zero Tolerance" program? Look into it if you think you are OK with a small amount. They will take your boat in a heartbeat.... for starters.

Vince
I have not, and I specifically said (if you re-read the post) in "Federal court". not if they are going to take your boat or otherwise cause you problems. I would imagine the "taking of a boat" for the coast guard would be the zero tolerance for BUI issues and such. I have been in law enforcement for over 25 years, and never once heard of a boat being seized for a personal amount of marijuana. I gave the gentleman the correct advice he was asking for as he will be cruising in local waters.

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A 3oz sinker in a bag, inside the stash bag. Sinks like a rock.
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Originally Posted by CarverChris View Post
Hi, concerning only medical/legal pot. How is this treated with say Local FWC, local LE?, I assume once you reach federal water all bets are off with coasties.

Cruising in local FL waters and backwaters good to go?
Curious about local and state water? Have seen CG presence on inland lakes and rivers.
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However you feel about it, we seldom see the USCG inside the COLREGs line here. If they get a call in the bay they hand it off to the Sheriff who may hand it off to the Fire Department if they don't have a boat in the water. I saw that a couple days ago. The news said they were looking into a call for the CG for a boating accident in Mullock Creek. When they finally got video, it was the Fire Department boat there.
In spite of all the jokes, I think the CG is scared of shallow water

As to the original question, if the captain looked impaired he might get busted by the Sheriff but I bet he would really be getting busted for being an asshole. They have pretty much said they are not pursuing personal use amounts of pot unless there is something else going on. With all of the legal medical pot, hemp products and CBD that test positive and trick the dogs, the state's attorney says these cases are getting hard to make.
Ron and Nicky are going to make it legal soon anyway. Maybe it will free up some LE time to pursue more serious crime.
As a side note, I think the Lee Sheriff is doing a great job in catching those Pain in the ass property criminals who most law enforcement agencies largely ignore. Thanks Carmine.
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Marijuana law enforcement is one of the biggest wastes of tax payer $$$ in the history of our country. We seriously waste billions, if not trillions of dollars on a harmless (if you're not driving) plant.

Do you want to roll the dice and hope the federal government uses common sense? I don't.
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Originally Posted by Joe Lane View Post
A 3oz sinker in a bag, inside the stash bag. Sinks like a rock.
Maybe your stash bag.
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What say our licensed Captains? I’m thinking you guys could be in major trouble?
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It’s illegal under federal law and USCG routinely checks boats within state waters. Not a risk I would take.
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+1 On Destin Bill. Federal offices dont give out warnings like an L.E.O. might.

Selser, next time you are near a Coastie', ask them about the amount they would allow and ask about their zero tolerance program. Most of them are more than willing to chat about things.

My 290 Sundancer was boarded by US Customs and during the 2 hour ordeal, I learned a lot about federal and state law differences. The one thing they do not have discretion on when is comes to illegal Shched 2 drug(s) aboard a boat., THC included. If it is a state rule that has been broken, the CG or other federal service will keep you boat docked or alongside and they call the local sheriff or city PD.

Back in 98, my boat was boarded was in the middle of July in the afternoon heat by US Customs. The customs officers were all in black, long sleeve and didnt want any back-talk from me. I asked the officer in charge why are they boarding a boat going out instead of a boat that is returning to port. He is answer surprised me. He said they were not looking for drugs, they were looking for large amounts of cash. I was told a few days later there have been some cruiser style boats fitted with huge gas tanks have been coming from Mexico/Yucatan over to the Clearwater St. Pete area delivering packages of drugs. They had extra fuel tanks built in and could haul $millions in drugs. Those guys deliver the package head back to the boat with the cash from the drug sale. Selectively fill up the tanks and head south/southwest. So I understood why I was boarded when I was headed out for the day compared to returning to port.


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Originally Posted by JMarkB View Post
What say our licensed Captains? I’m thinking you guys could be in major trouble?
Don't Licensed Captains have to in a drug testing program? I think the CG would frown heavily on possession.
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Originally Posted by NEBassMan View Post
Maybe your stash bag.
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I guess I'm not following the argument. If it is medically prescribed marijuana, how would that be different from any other prescription drug that I might have? I have a prescription for Vicodin. I have the bottle with me pretty much everywhere I go. What's the difference? Both are prescribed medically.
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Your license is handed out by the USCG, a federal entity. Marijuana is illegal at the federal level. USCG stops people anywhere they are and if they find any pot on your boat you'll regret bringing it on your boat.

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